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I've lost all gears except 1st!?

 
 
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mike328
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:04 pm    Post subject: I've lost all gears except 1st!? Reply with quote

Out in buggy today, going great all day, then half hour before pub o'clock it decides that I'm not allowed any gears except first (and neutral). As usual with these things it happened just at the point I really needed reverse..

When in neutral the gear stick wont move to the right in the normal way that it would to let you change to 3/4/5/R and it wont go backwards into second. Just moves from 1st to neutral.
No odd noises/behaviours before or after it happened, clutch is working fine and it is driving perfectly in 1st gear. Yes, it has oil in it!

Its got a 300tdi (lt230 transfer case) out of a discovery, so it would be an R380 gearbox?

Anyone got any ideas on what I should be looking for first?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing you've had a rollpin break up on one of your selector yokes
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mike328
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sort of thing was what I started thinking... but then why would the movement be limited?
My head says that with any part of the selectors coming apart it would give me a sloppy/unresponsive shift(or not shift), not the perfect 1st to neutral but no movement to get to any other gears that its doing...if that makes any sense at all! Smile Unless whatever broke has jammed something up???

Its all muddy and dumped in the garden at the mo, i'll get it washed and have a better look during the week and see if I can find any more details out...

EDIT - I meant shift, not s**t. Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the 1st/2nd synchro spring might have broken, or detent ball might have jammed, or as Xpajun says, the roll pin broken and causing the jam.
Another possibility is the 1st gear thrust bearing.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I finally got around to having a look at the buggy!
The metal tab thingy (technical term) that holds the two springs in the right place to return the lever to the middle when in neutral broke off... Typical LR - bits fall off, but cheap and easy fixes Very Happy

I propped the bit that broke in the place where it should be in this pic....


....fell off as shown in this one....


....and ended up wedged sort of like it is in this one, stopping me from moving gear lever!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big sigh of relief then. How are your welding skills?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep really happy! Especially that I decided to have a dig around whilst box was still in car, I almost pulled it out thinking that getting it cleaned up and repairing it on bench in workshop would be easier!

Foxtrottransit wrote:
How are your welding skills?

I get by Wink

Repaired -


Reinforced -


Refitted -

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice job. Assume it all works OK?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Yes works perfectly.. think it may have been bent / broken off for a while as the gear lever has never quite rested between 3rd and 4th properly, so now better than ever Smile

I celebrated by drilling and tapping some old pool balls to make gear knobs -

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mike328 wrote:




even the mud has gone rusty....

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing

It leaks when it rains too! Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could sell that for 40 grand then......
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ebay here we come!

Land Rover for sale. Rare / Collectable / Barn find / (add alternative lie for bumping price up here). Much improved over the factory model - Most of the bits that don't work properly from the factory have been removed so you wont have to fix them ever again. Then I installed winches so when the bits that are left inevitably break its easy to load on to a trailer. £40,000 ono.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drip tray under dash to collect leaks.....
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's just another thing to go wrong!

Mine has the OE rusty holes in the floor so the leaks go straight through...

Still better than VW a few years back when they seem to have decided the ECU was the best thing to catch bulkhead leaks in! Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Send me your bank details and I will send you a new set of OE holes. These holes are no ordinary holes as they don't have a rim or anything around them, they are just the holes themselves and as such have no weight so you will save fuel. Also they are very easy to fit as you don't need any tools but to be on the safe side for an extra zillion quid I can send you a hole welding welder.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already have the OE holes so no need... but if someone knows of a company selling aftermarket holes that can be fitted in an alternate position to the OE I would appreciate it, in heavy rainfall the foot wells just don't drain quick enough.

I was told there was another OE option that's available - has anyone tried the carpet/insulation combo? I was told it is fitted to soak up the puddles left by leaks when the holes cant keep up?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have tried that. It works very well but it does cause the or holes to expand quite quickly.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i`ve heard about these aftermarket holes.

you buy special spiders and they run all over the lawnmower looking for food. the holes are whats left behind when they`ve eaten.

structural points in the chassis and floor are the best tasting im told...

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The aftermarket holes are very reliable and easy to fit. The only time when people have problems is when they try to fit a smaller size of hole into the original hole. It's much easier to fit a larger hole in place of a smaller hole and the easiest way to do that is to have a brew, or a pint or three, and just watch it grow and if you are really lucky you can see them breed and make new little holes - when that happens to the chassis or floor pan we say it is "cattle trucked"!

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