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Buying a series 2a

 
 
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john_sj413
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:46 pm    Post subject: Buying a series 2a Reply with quote

hello,
I'm looking at buying a land rover series 2a,
The seller says it was built in 1963 and the current mot online confirms that but when you do an mot history check it comes up as a 1973

i asked the seller why this was and he said that someone took the plate off and an age related plate was registered to it.

is that something to be worried about as i guess in a few years it should be mot exempt?

Also i asked if the chassis number matched on the log book, he said he cant find a chassis number on the car anywhere,
the car is about 2 hours away from me and i want to go and look but don't want to buy something that is worthless because theres no chassis number,
also i thought there has to be a chassis number stamped on the car somewhere for the MOT?
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Xpajun
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1988 Mitsubishi Shogun

PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:59 am    Post subject: Re: Buying a series 2a Reply with quote

john_sj413 wrote:

i asked the seller why this was and he said that someone took the plate off and an age related plate was registered to it.



I'd be very wary about it - if the plate was removed then DVLA would have issued a Q plate with no details. As far as I can remember DVLA would or could not even issue a plate against a chassis number even if known...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and a 63 plate would have been ABC 123 A while a 73 would be ABC 123 K
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 8:23 am    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

thanks for the reply,
the reg starts with an A

i wouldnt have thought it would have been issued with a Q plate as i would have thought it would be the same as swapping plates about on any other car,
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: reply Reply with quote

john_sj413 wrote:
thanks for the reply,
the reg starts with an A

i wouldnt have thought it would have been issued with a Q plate as i would have thought it would be the same as swapping plates about on any other car,


If it starts with an A then it is a that would make it a 82 - 63 ended with an A

DVLA will not put a newer plate on an older vehicle
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: reply Reply with quote

Xpajun wrote:
john_sj413 wrote:
thanks for the reply,
the reg starts with an A

i wouldnt have thought it would have been issued with a Q plate as i would have thought it would be the same as swapping plates about on any other car,


If it starts with an A then it is a that would make it a 82 - 63 ended with an A

DVLA will not put a newer plate on an older vehicle


I'm a bit out on 73 and 82 Wink

find the registration letters here
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:04 pm    Post subject: . Reply with quote

the seller says the vin matches the car on the log book so must be ok
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: . Reply with quote

john_sj413 wrote:
the seller says the vin matches the car on the log book so must be ok


john_sj413 wrote:
Also i asked if the chassis number matched on the log book, he said he cant find a chassis number on the car anywhere,


If the registration starts with an A it's an 82 or newer - it can not be a 63, therefore not a 2A series Landrover - walk away
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Are we talking about the same thing?

A-suffix eg: NNN999A would have originally been issued by SOME local authorities in 1963. It would also have been issued later by DVLC when they needed to give an old number to, for instance, a Cherished Transfer donor, or a military vehicle entering civilian life, or first registration of a "barn find". All of these spurious registrations are entitled to a correct year registration, FOC, but you have to pay for the new plates yourself.

999CBA is not an A-suffix. It would have been allocated between 1960 and 1962, or up to 1963/1964 by some local authorities.

A-prefix eg A999NNN would have been issued circa 1982 (I can't find my book to check) by all local authorities.

ABC999 is not an A-prefix. It was the standard format for all registrations prior to 1960ish. Please don't go all pedantic over me, I know things got more interesting the further back you go.

Your registration must not suggest that your truck is younger than it really is.

Check that the chassis number on the V5 matches the chassis number on the plate on the bulkhead, in front of the gear lever. To be pedantic, this is the Commission Number ... vehicles built before 1980 did not have VIN plates, although there may be a FEW that were allocated at a later date, for some questionable reason.

A 1963 REGISTERED vehicle should have either a 3 or a 4 as the fourth character of the chassis number. the chassis YEAR number changed after the Summer holiday break in September, so a 4 could indicate it was a 1964 model, but manufactured at the end of 1963. A 3 would indicate it is a1963 model, registered in 1963, but POSSIBLY manufactured in 1962.

My S2 has a 1960 chassis number, and was registered in May 1960, but was actually built in December 1959, so is MOT exempt. Very Happy

If you are not already, get yourself subscribed to the LAND ROVER SERIES 2 FORUM, which is where you will find the experts on these trucks. The forum will make you welcome, but you will need to join the Club if you want to use their resources to reregister your truck.

www.series2club.co.uk Navigate to FORUM, then bookmark. We even talk to S3 owners.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PS,

If you don't buy this S2 ... please PM me, tell me where it is.

Pretty please.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doh! Me again.

<<< also i thought there has to be a chassis number stamped on the car somewhere for the MOT? >>>

Hi,

No! Not having a chassis number is NOT an MOT fail on a pre-1980 vehicle.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 8:34 pm    Post subject: . Reply with quote

Apologies for not replying sooner,
I' sorted out going up to view it with intention of buying it, but the seller sold it just before i was about to leave,

It was a bargain to be fair im not suprised it was gone so quick
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 10:39 pm    Post subject: Re: . Reply with quote

john_sj413 wrote:
Apologies for not replying sooner,
I' sorted out going up to view it with intention of buying it, but the seller sold it just before i was about to leave,

It was a bargain to be fair im not suprised it was gone so quick


It may not have been a bargain. It could have been a lemon or not even an S2. As you never saw it, you don't know. In fact, the new Owner may not even know whether it was a bargain or lemon until he has owned it for a year.
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