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(pete) Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:04 pm Post subject: Radiator fitment issue
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Hi guys and gals
Right I have an sj that has a vitara 1.6 8v engine fitted I have been building tube front and rear wings
The I have put the rad back in place and because of the width of the new body it's pushing the rad back towards the engine too far there is only a few mm between the back of the electric fan and the front pulley
Currently it's a vitara rad
What options do I have as far as a slimmer rad that's just as efficient
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mike328 Articulating
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:52 am Post subject:
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got any pictures of the new front? do you mean narrower in width or just slimmer in thickness?
I'd take a trip to the scrap yard with a tape measure and see what might fit...
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ScottieJ Guest
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:54 pm Post subject:
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Bit odd, there should be loads of room for a vitara rad and electric fans? What fan are you using, I have loads of space between the engine with a Vit rad and twin fans.
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:46 pm Post subject:
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can you not fit a push fan to the front instead of a pull behind...
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
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ScottieJ Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:43 am Post subject:
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That's how mine is fitted.
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(pete) Mud Obsessed
Joined: 19 Nov 2006 Odometer: 5806 Location: aldershot
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 5:07 pm Post subject:
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It's a double pully and I think it's this causing the problem as it pokes out much farther than your single one scotty
I was going to keep it to fit a second alternator at a later date but space behind the winch mount and new body is too tight
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ScottieJ Guest
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:24 pm Post subject:
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There's a double pulley on the crank for the Power steering if that's what you mean?
Need to see some pics of yours I guess, there's loads of room on mine.
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(pete) Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:29 pm Post subject:
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That is indeed what I mean bud can't post pics from my phone unfortunately and I don't have a laptop anymore
Would a samurai rad keep a vitara engine cool enough as this would fit on the original mounts I think
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ScottieJ Guest
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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:59 pm Post subject:
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My double pulley is quite far away from my rad but I guess I can have the bottom pushed a lot further forwards than yours.
If you think you can fit a 1.3 rad then I'm sure you could squeeze a 1.6 one in, they aren't really any thicker, just wider and taller, with a tiny bit of trimming they will sit between the chassis rails even with a vit PS box on a wedge. You might need to trim a bit of the inner bonnet skin to clear the rad cap though. I had to when I ran a bit rad with the original viscous fan and rad cowling because the rad had to sit closer to the engine and more upright.
1.3 rads do fine on road but struggle a bit off road at slow speeds and the fans will be coming on a lot more. Personally I wouldn't run a 1.3 rad on a 1.6 from my experience of being out with people that do, they stopped with cooling issues a lot more than those of us with 1.6 rads.
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(pete) Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:46 pm Post subject:
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Bonnet trimming is the way forward I think I can it the rad more upright then and will gain the space I need
Cheers scotty
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ScottieJ Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:39 am Post subject:
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Not the best pics but I managed to find some from when I first fitted a vit rad. Just tweaked the original vitara rad mounts and then made some small brackets to support the top of the rad. original thread is here http://www.suzukiclubuk.co.uk/forum1/viewtopic....&p=9206#p9206
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Tim Pink Off-Road Guru
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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:14 pm Post subject:
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IIRC there are two sizes of Vitara rad, one fits easier than the other.
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ScottieJ Guest
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:56 am Post subject:
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Tim Pink wrote: | IIRC there are two sizes of Vitara rad, one fits easier than the other. |
I know the auto rad is a lot taller, but that has an oil cooler in.
All the manual rads I've ever had have been the same size, not saying there aren't two sizes, I've just never seen another size apart from the auto rads.
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(pete) Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:37 am Post subject:
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Definitely no oil cooler and not sure on size but it was a squeeze before I cut the car up and moved stuff lol
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ScottieJ Guest
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:28 pm Post subject:
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I still want to see what you are building
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(pete) Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:54 am Post subject:
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Lol I still can't upload photos to difflock
We need a tapatalk upgrade
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Xpajun Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:28 pm Post subject:
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(pete) wrote: | Lol I still can't upload photos to difflock
We need a tapatalk upgrade |
Might as well ask for rocking horse sh!t
You can upload pics direct to photobucket direct from your phone - you can link from photobucket to Difflock providing you have an open account or album
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