I want one

Foxtrottransit · Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:43 pm Post subject: I want one

Hi guys I want one of these.
http://www.fourwd.org.uk/page3.html
Then once I've got it on the road I want to fit an xud lump in it to make the right noise and give it a bit more torque to cope with the bigger wheels. Please feel free to advise, mock or make recommendations.
Many thanks
Matt

zng109 · Guest

No you dont! I have the ncf outback and ncf is crap at customer service!

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I must admit I like the look of the Disco conversion.
Had I'd known about it several years ago I would have been tempted to convert my rusty old Disco, rather than selling it for spares.
I did look at another pick up conversion kit but decided against it.

RichMayo · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:35 am Post subject:

Hmm... I kinda like that. Would really like a look at the instruction manual to see what's involved in a bit more detail... Been looking for a way to refresh my vit.

RichMayo · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:51 am Post subject:

In the list of not included but will need... "Two gas rams for front end ".

Any idea what that's in aid of? Bonnet?

jeremy · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:54 am Post subject:

It says it has a one piece flip front end. so the rams would be for that.

Foxtrottransit · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:09 pm Post subject:

Absolutely its a one piece clamshell front end that tilts forward on gas struts. I'm gonna order the manual and have a browse before getting the kit home for serious play time. I could probably post a few pics if people want to see them.

RichMayo · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:14 pm Post subject:

Yeah I'd be interested if you can. Curious how many of my existing mods would conflict with it.

I think they gloss over the 33" tyre gearing situation a bit on the website though - but then if your going diesel Wink

wonder how 31" tyres with a 3" calmini susp would look...

Xpajun · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:17 pm Post subject:

zng109 · Guest

Existing mods conflict with the space frame.
This was supposed to be a 2" lift on my ncf blitz

A little bit high for 2" throwing the A frame

I wont show the front cvs or the rear prop shaft till later.

The body and the front are very seperate entity's, dont have dreams of winches and bull bars.

The body on the new issue seems to be the same as the blitz, the front is different.
I dont want to p on your parade but a few peaple have done the blitz conversion, it is worth very careful consideration.

RichMayo · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:21 pm Post subject:

I think they look quite different.
Suspension can be tweaked to work I'm sure. The one in the pics has a bull bar and as the winch bumper goes on the chassis...I'm sure it can be done...maybe with a well tucked away low down one like dave a bits4vits did.

zng109 · Guest

The bumper is attached to the bonnet that hinges on the chasis, I will take pics to explain. And trust me I am busy tweeking.

RichMayo · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:04 pm Post subject:

Have you got a arctic kicking around to photograph?

Foxtrottransit · Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:31 pm Post subject:

I don't have any pictures currently but I'm going to the classic kit and retro action day at castle coombe on the 20th of June where I'm meeting Simeon Scruton with his Arctic and Sahara so will try and post some then.

RichMayo · Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:20 am Post subject:

Is that the guy who took over ncf?

I'm only in yate so that's round the corner, I'd ask to come along but I'm moving house that weekend. I've already had a bad reaction when I asked if I could go to the parts show at three counties on the Sunday. I figured ive got a van rented it's an ideal time to go...but nooo. Are you local then?

cynic-al · Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:56 am Post subject:

Foxtrottransit · Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:50 pm Post subject:

Yes he bought and built a Sahara and liked it so much he bought the company (sounds like an old TV ad). I am fairly local I'm down in south Petherton near yeovil. Coincidentally we recently bought a car from Yate you have a very big tesco.

zng109 · Guest

I think the problem with the kit car conversations is that generally the people who build them go for look and not performance.
I say this from an almost bitter experience, the guy who built mine was a road car enthusiast. It looked the part but dosnt cut the mustard. I have the weather protection of a motorcycle and the off road ability of a series I landrover.
Needs a lot of tweeking and thats the expensive bit.

RichMayo · Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 3:41 pm Post subject:

Foxtrottransit · Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:24 pm Post subject:

If we were to order at the same time we could certainly save money by collecting them at the same time on one truck lol.

RichMayo · Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:53 pm Post subject:

Are you still planning on going to the show and having a look?

If I understand right this kit leaves the bulk head and some amount of the floor as standard saving shed load of hassle... but the kit bolts to the body mounts from the description... any idea how that works? I'd assume the remaining bits of the body is trying to use some of those mounts too.

Keep thinking about what work I've done would get "undone" by this kit. List is quite long... bumpers (+winch), snorkel, air intake, batteries, body lift... essentially I think the calmini suspension with some reduced springs is all that I might get away with leaving on there (and steel front axle housing). Having said all that my biggest concern is the exhaust. I've had a stainless system put on and in the process got them to lift it a bit so it didn't hang below the chassis. Without a body lift this might be a bit touch and go... I think this kit leaves the standard vit floor? I wonder how well this kit would react to a minor body lift... might save shortening things that have already been extended...

Dilemma is, is it worth dismantling all those bits for the sake of the kit - or does it make sense to acquire a new donor.

Looking forward to some pics...

Foxtrottransit · Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:32 pm Post subject:

Hi rich
Did you get my email? What do you think?

RichMayo · Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:17 am Post subject:

Yeah thanks. I sent you a reply last night.

Foxtrottransit · Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:18 pm Post subject:

Good luck with your move rich I hope your new man cave works out for you.

Foxtrottransit · Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:15 pm Post subject:

Well I've seen it, sat in it and I like it I also talked swmbo into having a sit in it. So I shall be placing my order on Monday he has said that it will probably be three months as he has some orders ahead of me and he is doing this along side a full time job. I hate to think how many hours this guy works.

P.s. I have picked up my vitara donor car this afternoon so best get the grinder out.

zng109 · Guest

Look forward to seeing it, still lots of work on the blitz to get it to standard.

RichMayo · Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:15 am Post subject:

So I'm all moved! Worked like crazy on the Friday to get everything shifted and started moving cars across at about 11.30 at night! Anyways got it all done.

So I managed to get to the show in early to mid afternoon on the Saturday after I think you'd been to the stand already. Must have just missed you.

Might be worth holding off on slicing your vit too much in case he makes any revisions before building yours.

Yeah I think it looks as good in real life as those pictures. Gotta say I liked the land rover kit he had there too.

I'm dithering about placing an order for a few reasons. Main one is I'm not sure I can wait that long. I'm taking my vit to some trials late July. If I enjoy it I'm debating building my own body. The deposit money would get me a decent amount of steel to start.

Anyways i'll keep dithering until late July I think. Got the order form on my noticeboard Smile

Foxtrottransit · Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:22 pm Post subject:

I'm glad your move went well. I'm quite reasured that he'll get mine right as he's building three before mine(practise makes perfect Laughing

) the chopping of the but has begun as I found some rot in the back of the floor pans right in the bit you need to keep so I'm doing a sort of skin graft thing where I cut it from one area to repair another Wink

I'll see if I can get some photo's on the way.

RichMayo · Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:49 am Post subject:

Hah - maybe that's why I'm holding off then ... the fourth will be even perfect...er.... right? I'm currently getting distracted by house related jobs - but staring at the vit trying to decide what bits I'm going to cut off...

Got them photos yet?

craigderby · Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:27 am Post subject:

Have you had your kit yet, or still waiting?