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facomkid Articulating
Joined: 31 May 2008 Odometer: 739 Location: aston clinton- aylsbury
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 1:55 pm Post subject: Major can't be ***** syndrome!
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Well after a eventful week at work I have been forced to resign so I start December jobless, but I'm remaining positive and looking at it like I have some time off work to get a few things done on my cars which I hadn't had time to do, but I have major can't be ***** syndrome!!! What helps people get motivated ?
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Toseland Mud Obsessed
Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Odometer: 3209 Location: cardiff
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 7:27 pm Post subject:
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mud...
and telling us why you had to resign...
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facomkid Articulating
Joined: 31 May 2008 Odometer: 739 Location: aston clinton- aylsbury
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:22 pm Post subject:
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Well it all started 2 months back, and we had Asian lad started working with us , and All seemed good untill a week ago, when another guy I worked with started saying racial things to him and he asked me if Id stick up for him in court, I said Im happy to write a statement but I won't go to court with it I don't want to be apart of any of that, and since then he turned sour, now I thought this guy was a friend so I told him with i thought of a guy I worked with "the one that said the racial things" and I don't like him in fact I hate the guy he belittles you and takes the ****, basically a school bully and this Asian lad told this other guy all this and since then they sorta teamed up against me, Friday I got called into the office and told I have been inciting racism and I have been stealing from the company and I have been trying to get the other guy sacked from his job, and my boss said to me he wants me to leave on my own accord or other wise he will sack me and it will be a police matter in which he said he will prosecute me, now I haven't stolen anything but the other two will make up some story to make my guilty and I really don't need the stress of proving my self, so yeah just goes to show you can't trust anyone
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
Joined: 18 Jun 2014 Odometer: 2039 Location: Scouser
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2014 9:30 pm Post subject:
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whoops.
do not resign.
make him sack you.
then go for tribunal.
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w3526602 Difflock Royalty
Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Odometer: 10758 Location: Glynneath, South Wales
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 7:16 am Post subject:
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Hi,
Can he sack you without a writen warning? What sort of reference is he going to give you? Do you know anybody who could ask for a reference,pretending to be a potential employer. I believe a bad reference can be regarded as libel. Google that.
Out of curiosity, if anybody knows, just what would the police have done, seeing is this is the first anybody has heard of your racial attitude?
I'd be down my solicitor for freebie advice. Constructive dismissal?
602
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absquatulation Off-Road Guru
Joined: 17 Apr 2005 Odometer: 1922 Location: Lost
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:38 am Post subject:
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On one hand it is the right decision to go, do you really want to work in an environment where there is all this tension, do you trust the rest of the workforce not to stitch you up? Are you happy having to watch your back every moment of every day?
If you move on, you move on with the rest of your life. While Ged might be technically correct, to stay and fight will result in your life being on standby while this saga unfolds.
References? Normally they are not worth the paper they are written on. A lot of firms especially where there is a high staff turnover will only write “John Smith was employed by this company from date to date”.
What would the Police have done? They would have followed this up, they have the accusation, the victim, the aggressor, witnesses. It would have been an easy score.
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. Difflock Royalty
Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Odometer: 40007 Location: Northern Ireland's Gold Coast
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:41 am Post subject:
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If you are innocent I would have to agree with all the above
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vtrax Off-Road Guru
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Odometer: 1058 Location: Cambs
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 8:54 am Post subject:
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You can be sacked without a warning, but it has to be something serious - "gross misconduct" is a favorite, but they will have to have a watertight, evidence based case against you.
I certainly wouldn't resign at this stage - get some advise - CAB used to be good, but i don't know what they're like now. They will advise your best course of action.
If you've already resigned you can still claim "constructive dismissal" against your ex-boss. This applies if you feel you had no option but to resign.
It is not easy for a boss to just sack employees, & most firms quake at the thought of a tribunal
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RichardD Marshall
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Odometer: 22856 Location: State of Confusion
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:20 am Post subject:
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Another vote for 'constructive dismissal'.
As an employer I can tell you that if procedures are not followed to the letter then the ambulance chasers will have a field day. Basically unless they have a watertight case you can claim constructive dismissal, threaten them with a tribunal and mucho adverse publicity and it is cheaper for them to hand you a large cheque than go through the pain of legal action. This is especially true when the guy actually said to you "I want you to quit rather than get sacked".
This kind of stuff makes me really angry and, if I assume you don't want your job back, you can get looking for work knowing you will either muck them up for months and possibly get a decent pay off at least equivalent to your lost wages/notice period and at best get a new better job AND a cash bundle.
You've got 2 or 3 years to make a claim but I'd get it started immediately.
Get angry, that'll help the motivation.
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facomkid Articulating
Joined: 31 May 2008 Odometer: 739 Location: aston clinton- aylsbury
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:31 am Post subject:
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Wow didn't even think I could fight it?, no your right I don't want to i back, it's no fun being in a workshop where no one talks to you and you have to lock your tool box every time you turn your back becuase you worry somone will take something, start the job hunt today, and you all think it's worth going further with it?
Anyone here looking for a skilled mechanic?
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RichardD Marshall
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Odometer: 22856 Location: State of Confusion
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:37 am Post subject:
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It'll cost you nothing to speak to a decent lawyer (or an indecent one for that matter!). They're the ones who can tell you if you have a case.
Post up your CV, you never know ....
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w3526602 Difflock Royalty
Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Odometer: 10758 Location: Glynneath, South Wales
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:53 pm Post subject:
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Hi,
Most solicitors will give you a 30 minute chat for free. ... check yellow pages for Employment specialists. A divorce lawyer won't know much employment law. Ideally, you want a "no win no fee deal" (might concentrate their minds)
I would consider threatening you with the police is worse than sacking you. I assume that you have had no verbal (but still on file), or written warnings for the alleged offence.
How will you reply if a potential employer asks "Why did you leave?" Telling him you are suing your last boss will not go down well.
On the other hand, Shinyass at Job Centre is going to ask why you have made yourself voluntarily unemployed. Ask him what he would do if it happened to him.
I hope this comes back to bite your boss. If the Perp can do it once, he will do it again. Who says this is the first tiime anyway? Do you know where he worked previously, and why he left?
602
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teamidris Mud Obsessed
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facomkid Articulating
Joined: 31 May 2008 Odometer: 739 Location: aston clinton- aylsbury
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:24 pm Post subject:
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Well after 1 And a half days of unemployment, I have scored a job at a Land Rover specialist! Dream job!!! On the second phone call I landed the job! To be fair yesterday I didn't bother I was too busy taking the front axle off my project rover, to anyone who says there's no jobs out there, get off you're ****!
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
Joined: 18 Jun 2014 Odometer: 2039 Location: Scouser
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:30 pm Post subject:
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facomkid wrote: | to anyone who says there's no jobs out there, get off you're ****! |
strange how you didnt say that yesterday...
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facomkid Articulating
Joined: 31 May 2008 Odometer: 739 Location: aston clinton- aylsbury
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:01 pm Post subject:
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Sorry I don't follow ?
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:07 pm Post subject:
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yesterday you was all "woe is me, i cant be *****" how do i motivate myself ect
today anyone without a job basically needs to get up off their ****.
now do you follow?
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facomkid Articulating
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:40 pm Post subject:
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Oh no I meant what helps motivate people to work on there own cars when then can't be bothered not find a job sorry, I meant now I have all this time off, I want to get things done on my own cars but never had the time, sorry for the confusion
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:23 pm Post subject:
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. Difflock Royalty
Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Odometer: 40007 Location: Northern Ireland's Gold Coast
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 9:13 am Post subject:
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facomkid wrote: | Oh no I meant what helps motivate people to work on there own cars when then can't be bothered |
That was the way I read it.
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cynic-al Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:54 pm Post subject:
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I often suffer from can't be ar
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. Difflock Royalty
Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Odometer: 40007 Location: Northern Ireland's Gold Coast
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 2:59 pm Post subject:
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Lolita the Lightweight
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Xpajun Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 3:08 pm Post subject:
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Hmmmmm.......
"No, sorry, won't be done today, I've got a touch of the 'Cant-be-ars' about me"
Yeah - had it meself for the past two and a half years when it comes to rebuilding me truck
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w3526602 Difflock Royalty
Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Odometer: 10758 Location: Glynneath, South Wales
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:13 am Post subject:
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Hi,
I wonder what your old boss will feel when he finds he has got himself a trouble maker?
602
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spannerman69 Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:04 am Post subject:
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Xpajun wrote: | Hmmmmm.......
"No, sorry, won't be done today, I've got a touch of the 'Cant-be-ars' about me"
Yeah - had it meself for the past two and a half years when it comes to rebuilding me truck |
my last can`t be ***** is still sat in the garage ,,, 12 years on .
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
Joined: 18 Jun 2014 Odometer: 2039 Location: Scouser
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Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:21 am Post subject:
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yeah, but we put the gearbox on the engine 2 years ago.....
so technically it doesnt count.........
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RichardD Marshall
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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:48 am Post subject:
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facomkid wrote: | Well after 1 And a half days of unemployment, I have scored a job at a Land Rover specialist! Dream job!!! On the second phone call I landed the job! To be fair yesterday I didn't bother I was too busy taking the front axle off my project rover, to anyone who says there's no jobs out there, get off you're ****! |
Well done that man. This does not preclude you suing the backside off the backstabbing ne'er do well who forced you to quit.
Get the cash and the new job!
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winchman Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:34 am Post subject:
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Glad you are sorted, sometimes it better to move on than fight it, look at the end result, you now have a job that looks better
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