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How long do simex's last ?

 
 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:03 pm    Post subject: How long do simex's last ? Reply with quote

Im looking at tyres and I think a lot will agree Simex are one of if not the best for off roading but they are rather a lot of ££££..

A set of 5 just over £2000 exc Rims

So does anyone have a set of Simex's and can tell me how many miles I should get out of them ? It will be driven to local events ( maybe a max of 150-200 miles per outing - there , event , back ) and for longer ones it will be trailered nearer the venue. Will only be used around 2-4 times a month.

So how many miles do you get out of them ?

Or is there something better ? off road is 99% of the time, just getting to local events / shows it will be on the road
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a 'how long is a piece of string"' question.

IIRC Simex ET2s are quite a soft compound and do not last well on the road, not to mention having so little rubber on the road it hugely affects braking. This also means that the edges of them can be knocked off relatively quickly if you spin up on rock/stone.

How long do they last? Your road mileage will be IMO irrelevant, but the longevity will be affected more by the type of terrain and your driving style than anything else.

I don't think they are the best out there, just one of the best. I did much better on creepy crawlers because they allowed me to spin up the wheels while winching up long steep climbs without worrying about breaking axle parts if a tyre hooked up. In sloppy, deeper mud, however there is little to touch them.

We describe tracks as being 'simexed' when leaden footed drivers spin their tyres and dig themselves down to the chassis legs because they do not have the finesse to trickle through ruts. This makes them impossible to navigate with anything not on 37" tyres.

Shorter answer ... many years of muddy fun Wink

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RichardD wrote:
This is a 'how long is a piece of string"' question.

IIRC Simex ET2s are quite a soft compound and do not last well on the road, not to mention having so little rubber on the road it hugely affects braking. This also means that the edges of them can be knocked off relatively quickly if you spin up on rock/stone.

How long do they last? Your road mileage will be IMO irrelevant, but the longevity will be affected more by the type of terrain and your driving style than anything else.

I don't think they are the best out there, just one of the best. I did much better on creepy crawlers because they allowed me to spin up the wheels while winching up long steep climbs without worrying about breaking axle parts if a tyre hooked up. In sloppy, deeper mud, however there is little to touch them.

We describe tracks as being 'simexed' when leaden footed drivers spin their tyres and dig themselves down to the chassis legs because they do not have the finesse to trickle through ruts. This makes them impossible to navigate with anything not on 37" tyres.

Shorter answer ... many years of muddy fun Wink


Thanks for the reply. So would i maybe be better getting a set of BFG or maxxis ( dont know if they still do mudzilla or CC but i know i can get trepador ), as they will be more suited to everything rather than just MUD.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no answer to this. The Simex's won't really last hugely longer than any other non remould tyre. Maybe less. But it's the higher performance they offer, that's where the money is.

This is the same with track day semi slick tyres for road cars. Usually more pricey than quality road tyres, but won't last as long.

Also this will depend on your exact usage and the tyres you are looking at. I suspect you are wrongly using Simex as a blanket term for the Extreme Trekker tread pattern? Bear in mind, I think these are Crossply, not Radial as a Simex.

I have some Simex Jungle Trekker II's. They have been used for a mix of use on a Disco and a D90. And have covered quite a lot of road miles and suffered some hard cornering. I think they have done a minimum of 10,000 miles, but it might be in excess of 15,000.

They are still highly usable, although some of the lugs have worn at different rates/heights (probably due to the reckless cornering). And of course they don't quite have their edge any more. But they still out perform lesser MT's in slippery conditions.

This is what they look like now:



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add a vid in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jTxpObE89g&...TGMWUTTEPCrQ3pzzw


I've driven this terrain with a lot of different tyres, Fedima Extreme Evolution, Recip Trial, Recip Maxi 3D, 7.50 Diamonds, 7.50 partners, Silverstone Sport MT-117 and others.

Only the Maxi 3D's have proved superior traction IMO and they were brand new vs these old Simex's.

I'm sure a new set of Extreme Trekkers are worth every penny on the right terrain.

One thing I love about my Simex's is the extra grip they find once you spin them up. At 1min 40sec in the vid you see this happen, not quite enough momentum, spin the wheels and a bit more grip. Any other MT I've tried here will not manage this and when you spin them up they offer no additional traction in the same way.

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