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Grendel Gate Opener
Joined: 17 Dec 2012 Odometer: 26 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:15 am Post subject: Which diesels 4x4 will run on Veg oil?
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Just wandering which 4x4 WILL run on veg oil and diesel mix since keep getting conflicting information when I look. Since I'm interested in either a Terrano 2.7Tdi or a Fronter 2.2 Dti
Is there a list of cars that do?
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ivorbiggin Mud Obsessed
Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Odometer: 2485 Location: PORTSMOUTH
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:46 pm Post subject:
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Yes there is a list on the interweb somewhere, its not a comprehensive list but one compiled from people who have actually run their vehicles on veg. Also gives the mileage theyve covered on veg and problems they have encountered mechanically wise.
Maverano's will run on 50/50 veg/derv mix, at least mine does and has done for a couple of years with no ill effect. They dont like more than 50/50.
You are well advised to put in a primary filter, i have a glass bowl type before the main filter which the bowl just unclips and the filter gauze can be cleaned on the side of the road.
You will need to change the main fuel filter a few times after you start running on veg, as any muck in the bottom of the fuel tank tends to stick to the veg and get dragged through.
I have also modded the fuel lines from main filter to pump by running them up and down the rocker cover and cable tied them to the heater pipes, to help heat up the fuel, (makes it thinner) I have also installed a glow plug type fuel heater before the main filter and a 12v baby bottle warmer strapped around the main fuel filter helps as well.
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rob546454 Just got MTs
Joined: 17 Jan 2013 Odometer: 232 Location: Bradford
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:39 pm Post subject:
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The 2.5 & 2.8 Mitsubishi units can run a high ratio. Most will run at 50/50 as long as you are a few degrees above freezing during the night.
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Grendel Gate Opener
Joined: 17 Dec 2012 Odometer: 26 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:47 am Post subject:
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The only list of cars you can run on veg oil I found was a US one with no UK cars on it which wasn't much help.
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Jay reKx Just got MTs
Joined: 26 Aug 2010 Odometer: 296 Location: The Shire
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:00 pm Post subject:
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generally as a rule of thumb I understand diesel engines built before 2003, i.e pre PD can be capable, but then some like it, some don't. i certainly wouldn't feed Veg to a newer motor or a common rail diesel. its best to try with a mix of derv/svo and slowly increase the %age of svo. there was a list and a log compiled somewhere and I'll see if I can find it
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( Gray ) Articulating
Joined: 15 Apr 2012 Odometer: 597
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Grendel Gate Opener
Joined: 17 Dec 2012 Odometer: 26 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 7:03 am Post subject:
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Thanks for that Gray. Unfortunately their forum wont let me join with a Hotmail account?
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FBF Winch Assistant
Joined: 15 Nov 2012 Odometer: 90 Location: Gatwick
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:23 am Post subject:
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fourtrak as always, the winner. ready to go they love the stuff and 50 50 mix no probs
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Grendel Gate Opener
Joined: 17 Dec 2012 Odometer: 26 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:26 am Post subject:
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I like the Fourtrack but not the reputation for being rust buckets.
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scrunt Articulating
Joined: 11 Jul 2012 Odometer: 985 Location: Tayside.
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:36 am Post subject:
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Reputations are about various and many different vehicles.
You only want to buy one, so buy one thats not rusty.
That applies to each and every type of vehicles.
Even different models of vehicle without a reputation for rust, does not mean that you will not find ones that are rusty.
george
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Nathaniel Difflock Royalty
Joined: 13 May 2003 Odometer: 17901 Location: North, North Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 11:29 pm Post subject:
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Unmodified? Your mileage may vary.
You need either a Bosch or SIMMS Inline or a Bosch or Nippon Rotary type IP or similar.
Common Rail, Lucas Pumps or Standyne rotaries etc are not suitable.
A direct injection diesel is not suitable for cold starting on Vegetable oils.
An indirect injection engine will generally survive, just.
Does it have to be a 4x4?
Old Merc Diesel estates and Saloons are perfect (IE ones from the 1980's)
Get the right diesel and it'll be IDI with a Bosch inline pump - Veggie heaven!
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andypalmer1981 Just got MTs
Joined: 09 Oct 2011 Odometer: 125 Location: The Fens
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:26 pm Post subject:
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Having discussed this at length, and in his absence, I will give Ged's default response: SsangYong 2.9 diesel, either Musso or Korando. The n/a diesel apparently runs 100%, early turbos the same.
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. Difflock Royalty
Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Odometer: 40007 Location: Northern Ireland's Gold Coast
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:46 pm Post subject:
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andypalmer1981 wrote: | SsangYong 2.9 diesel, either Musso or Korando. |
Do they not use the old Merc engine as previously mentioned by Nathanial?
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andypalmer1981 Just got MTs
Joined: 09 Oct 2011 Odometer: 125 Location: The Fens
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:37 pm Post subject:
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That they do, not something that comes to mind straight away though for most people. A bit more recent than 1980s though.
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Wollys World :) Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 6:27 am Post subject:
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I am running 95%WVO 5% petrol in my 2.8TD Shoggy, with a wee dram of veggiboost, runs a dream, i have done over 3000 miles. yes it only does 24ish to the gallon but nicely
In winter i was 50/50 but i am going to go with 90%WVO and 10% petrol when its get colder to see how that goes.
wolly
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Pasty Gate Opener
Joined: 18 Sep 2013 Odometer: 12
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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:39 am Post subject:
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Hilux Surf 3L... loves the stuff.
Can run mine on 100% veg no probs, get one with the cold weather kit fitted and its already got a fuel heater.
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chris_ba1212 Just got MTs
Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Odometer: 307 Location: Oxford
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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:51 pm Post subject:
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just don't try mixing engine oil (new or otherwise) with waste veg as it makes glue and the engine really doesn't like it. Last year in the snow i was running my 2.8 pajero 100% WVO it was a little harder to start but otherwise no problems. Now i just chuck in whatever i can get for it
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scinnyjumbo Gate Opener
Joined: 13 Jun 2012 Odometer: 17 Location: Letchworth Herts
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 9:12 pm Post subject:
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Grendel wrote: |
Thanks for that Gray. Unfortunately their forum wont let me join with a Hotmail account? |
Would not let me join with a NTL Virgin account
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
Joined: 18 Jun 2014 Odometer: 2039 Location: Scouser
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:23 pm Post subject:
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theres been a bit of bother with spammers, but it should be sorted now.
send the admin a message and it should get sorted.
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
Joined: 18 Jun 2014 Odometer: 2039 Location: Scouser
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:26 pm Post subject:
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and yes, the musso is still on anything runny enough to go down the filler neck two times out of three.
forget this fourtrack 50/50 crap you keep hearing about.
Musso . been running on 100% cack, even in winter for over 100,000 miles now.
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RichardD Marshall
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Odometer: 22856 Location: State of Confusion
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:43 am Post subject:
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Wollys World wrote: |
In winter i was 50/50 but i am going to go with 90%WVO and 10% petrol when its get colder to see how that goes.
wolly |
10% petrol ... in a diesel? Are you sure?
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
Joined: 18 Jun 2014 Odometer: 2039 Location: Scouser
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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:21 am Post subject:
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yup, thats the right dose richard.
2L in 20L of wvo.
see, 10% petrol thins veg by 50% ish give or take.
Mercedes recommends 30% petrol in its derv engines in cold climates.
with 2-EhN you can reduce that a bit.
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