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Should Scotland leave the UK? |
Yes (I'm Scottish) |
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16% |
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Yes (I'm not Scottish) |
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20% |
[ 6 ] |
No (I'm Scottish) |
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13% |
[ 4 ] |
No (I'm not Scottish) |
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36% |
[ 11 ] |
I don't care (I'm Scottish) |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
I don't care (I'm not Scottish) |
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13% |
[ 4 ] |
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Total Votes : 30 |
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Wilbert Robinson Articulating
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:32 pm Post subject:
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the late Big Ian would be shouting Never Never Never No No No
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w3526602 Difflock Royalty
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:44 pm Post subject:
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Hi,
According to my SWMBO who claims to know about these things....
Scotland and France are historic chums, and England a Spain have/had similar relationships.
It wouldn't surprise me if France claimed Scotland, the same as they were going to divvy up the Channel Islands.
Actually, I'm waiting for someone to announce their hidden agenda. If parts of Wales are still untamed, Scotland will become a pioneer country. How far is John o'Groats from the Rift Valley?
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Nightbar Difflock Royalty
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:23 pm Post subject:
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To be honest England gets on better with the Portuguese than the Spanish...
...but there is history between Scotland and France if you know what I mean, nudge nudge, wink wink
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:26 pm Post subject:
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i love the whole concept of it though.... - right say yes then we will win, then we will go talk to them we won from, then we`ll come back and tell you what you actually said yes to....
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( Gray ) Articulating
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 3:53 am Post subject:
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It's 04:50 and we currently have one despondant Scotsman working in our warehouse.
And to be totally impartial, we have one very happy Scotsman working in our warehouse...
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( Gray ) Articulating
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:28 am Post subject:
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Well, that wasn't as close as the polls suggested.
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RichardD Marshall
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:46 am Post subject:
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All I can say is thank [insert deity] for that.
I suspected it would closer than that but it is good there is clear water between the 2 sides.
Now we can work towards a new normality as a single sort of United, kingdom.
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teamidris Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 5:48 am Post subject:
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No, not as close, but I was thinking that No voters might say that they were voting YES, but YES voters wouldn't claim on the phone and in the street that they we putting a cross on the NO.
I guess the difference is the number of folk who were fibbing
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RichardD Marshall
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:16 am Post subject:
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The yes supporters were/are very vocal and there was a sense that to say No was an invitation to be challenged. This is demonstrated by the number of Better Together posters that were vandalised.
Frankly I'm glad we can start to talk about something else.
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( Gray ) Articulating
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:32 am Post subject:
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I suppose I'd better do some work now...
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. Difflock Royalty
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:42 am Post subject:
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What are we going to talk about now?....................
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Xpajun Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:43 am Post subject:
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RichardD wrote: | The yes supporters were/are very vocal and there was a sense that to say No was an invitation to be challenged. This is demonstrated by the number of Better Together posters that were vandalised.
Frankly I'm glad we can start to talk about something else. |
Not sure the talking is finished yet Richard...
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DD Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:05 am Post subject:
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The talking has only just started unfortunately...and this will drag on...and on.........
Hopefully there are positives to come from this though......
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ed Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:27 am Post subject:
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Now it is a no vote maybe Wee Eck should stand down.
Maybe to be replaced by another top level politician that might be looking for a job.....
now who sounds a bit Scottish. I give you Mr Cameron 😄
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:31 am Post subject:
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i wonder how a referendum of the English people to allow scotland to stay would go
this week compared to a year ago....
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teamidris Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 9:33 am Post subject:
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I think exactly the same outcome. English would vote them to leave, because they must want to leave, or they wouldn't ask?
Folk aren't all that complicated when it gets down to the basics. Somebody asks for something, you help them out.
And as such, you wonder if this was the political game all along? To have a vote and loose? Because a yes vote would have been a sure thing with an open UK vote.
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cynic-al Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:37 am Post subject:
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Is it like a good legal case where the loser foots the bill for all this or does 55% mean it's knock for knock?
Or by the fact that were now staying together mean we're the winner and the loser...
And does that mean that all those that campaigned yes are now out of work or does that mean that we have another coalition with two people doing every job
Or do things just stay the same meaning all this money, work and resources have been wasted?
Or do I need to go do something useful?
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RichardD Marshall
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:48 am Post subject:
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There is no need for Salmond to stand down - he was elected with a mandate to seek a referendum on Independence and he did it. The fact that a majority didn't want it is not the issue.
I foresee a 'federal' United Kingdom with modernisation of many of our political institutions - good for everyone IMO
No one has lost their job, no one is being castigated or pilloried for tyheir opinion - this is Scotland not some banana republic.
Nothing has been wasted. This was a debate that was much needed and it allowed discussion of some difficult subjects which will benefit everyone. 85% turnout, 97% voter registration, a whole population engaged in the decisions affecting their Country. This can ONLY be a good thing.
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DD Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:57 am Post subject:
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It should, in my opinion, be a god thing to stay united, but sometimes I wonder when I read comments such as:
"Because a yes vote would have been a sure thing with an open UK vote. "
We know when we're not welcome!
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RichardD Marshall
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 11:02 am Post subject:
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It's okay DD, they just know its safe to bait us again now that the Scots regiments are still fighting for the UK and not just Scotland.
Now for the painful discovery of the English national identity, one that goes past pasties, warm beer, cricket football hooligans and casual racism/homophobia
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 1:14 pm Post subject:
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DD wrote: | It should, in my opinion, be a god thing to stay united, but sometimes I wonder when I read comments such as:
"Because a yes vote would have been a sure thing with an open UK vote. "
We know when we're not welcome! |
what, like the english aint welcome by 45% of scots?
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Xpajun Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:04 pm Post subject:
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RichardD wrote: | There is no need for Salmond to stand down... |
So he goes then - I think, reading the comments posted about his attitude to Scotland leaving the Union, it might have been his best decision yet!
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teamidris Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 6:51 pm Post subject:
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Oh dear, I'm upsetting folk again
My theory of it being a political scam to get power away from London win or loose looks blown. Why on earth has he resigned? He has likely won Scotland a load of internal control. He should have got a raise !
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Nightbar Difflock Royalty
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:07 pm Post subject:
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So now you get Sturgeon...?
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 10:35 pm Post subject:
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the glasgow revolution
"let them eat fish!!"
sorry.
pseudo historic reference there
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( Gray ) Articulating
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 1:51 am Post subject:
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In 1324 Edward the Second decreed that sturgeon was a royal fish, and any sturgeon found within the foreshore of the kingdom was the property of the crown...
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w3526602 Difflock Royalty
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:45 am Post subject:
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Is it like a good legal case where the loser foots the bill for all this or does 55% mean it's knock for knock?
Hi,
55 is roughly 20% more than 44, so not really a close run thing,
OK, I know you should take averages of averages, but does the same apply to percentages?
When England gets home rule, can we have a new capital city in the middle, with London kept for cultural stuff? New city to be built on hexagon layout, so all junctions have only three roads in/out.
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( Gray ) Articulating
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:29 am Post subject:
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That's a good idea.
Flatten Birmingham and start again.
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:33 am Post subject:
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( Gray ) wrote: | That's a good idea.
Flatten Birmingham . |
edited for accuracy.
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( Gray ) Articulating
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:28 am Post subject:
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So now 70,000 pro-independence Scots are screaming blue murder and want a re-ballot...
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