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sjmark
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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 10:42 pm    Post subject: Lets talk td5 problems lol none starter Reply with quote

Quick rundown my v reg td5 disco won't start has new harness new cps a loom drenched in oil not sure how I'm going to sort that yet she turns over but will not even try to fire also no noise whatsoever coming from the pump what do you reckon pump knackered or ecu? Or something else
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You say the wiring loom was drenched with oil. have to checked the plug at the ECM?

The oil can work its way down the loom to the ECM eventuly getting in to that as well.

You may get lucky and a clean out the connections. Sometimes works otherwise it may be shopping time.

On the other side you say the fuel pump is silent. another comman issue for this is the fuel pump relay failing. Not sure where its hidden in DII but IIRC its in the main fuse box. (Defender has it on baulkhead No1 under drivers seat) If a new relay dosn't fix it then its back to the ECM not telling it to start which might mean oil inn the ECM or loom plug.

Pumps as a rule don't die that often, but the fact you have had an oil filled wiring loom id look at your connectors and relay first, if you lucky it'll be just a £5 relay or short section of wiring loom.

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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers mate I purchased it very cheap as a none runner thought it would make A little project lol I'm currently half way through removing the whole engine loom it's been like a straw oil is everywhere maf ecu the lot there's not a plug that hasn't got oil in it so going to strip the loom clean it and rebuild it all good fun
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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do know that you can buy a per-made loom for them mate but for the life of me I can't remember the company name if I find it on google I will let you know

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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look on rapidfitloom mate I would link it but I'm a bit of a biff with computers lol

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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if im honest you would be better of removing the engine loom & replacing it, if your stuck, i have one on the shelf,

id be looking at the simple things, as a thought have you reset the crash switch thats on the bulkhead? that stops the fuel pump running, as above check fuses & relays,

what warning lights do you have coming up on the dash?

also something thats worth a try is turn the ign to pos2 & then pump the throttle pedal 5 times back to back, this forces the ecu to power the fuel pump

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PostPosted: Sun May 05, 2013 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigbuggy wrote:
if im honest you would be better of removing the engine loom & replacing it, if your stuck, i have one on the shelf,

id be looking at the simple things, as a thought have you reset the crash switch thats on the bulkhead? that stops the fuel pump running, as above check fuses & relays,

what warning lights do you have coming up on the dash?

also something thats worth a try is turn the ign to pos2 & then pump the throttle pedal 5 times back to back, this forces the ecu to power the fuel pump



5 stars forgot about the crash switch.

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys the oil straw has now been removed checked both relays and the crash switch on the bulkhead prior to removal and I'm half way through splitting the loom it won't need a new one just a strip and rebuild also have a brandnew injector harness the td5 was a pants creation lol I will update as I go on something else we checked prior to loom removal was power to the pump there isn't any relays have been replaced bulk head thingy checked and immobiliser reset still nothing
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nothing wrong with the TD5 engine,

they are a great engine if looked after, wouldnt have anything else in my truck,

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Running the loom inside the engine was a dumb idea fact
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sjmark wrote:
Running the loom inside the engine was a dumb idea fact


problem is you have to so you can fire the injectors for the comon rail fuel line.

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sjmark wrote:
Running the loom inside the engine was a dumb idea fact


you may well think so but theres thousands of Vw's with the loom in the same place without issue..........

the issue being the plugs they used

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

correct on the vw engine first time ive ever come accross it now heres a question does the oil go through the loom between the coatings or between the metal wire and coatings if that makes sence
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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

up the wire,

google capilary action

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers again matey
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