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Adam32 Gate Opener
Joined: 26 Feb 2013 Odometer: 7 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:03 pm Post subject: Ssangyoung Korando Ball Joint flip - is this correct?
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I have been reading a few posts about upper ball joint flips and wondered if this is what they mean as shown in my pictures:
http://imageshack.us/f/17/97105683.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/40405377.jpg
Have I done this correctly? I was just worrying a little as the distance between A and B (on second link) looks really short. Will the parts foul on each other when the vehicle is being used? Also I read that this will raise the front as I put larger springs on the back, however it has not raised the front. Do I still need to crank up the torsion bars?
many thanks
Adam
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GVstu Mud Obsessed
Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Odometer: 2314 Location: Northumberland
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Ball Joint flip - is this correct?
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Adam32 wrote: | I have been reading a few posts about upper ball joint flips and wondered if this is what they mean as shown in my pictures:
http://imageshack.us/f/17/97105683.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/40405377.jpg
Have I done this correctly? I was just worrying a little as the distance between A and B (on second link) looks really short. Will the parts foul on each other when the vehicle is being used? Also I read that this will raise the front as I put larger springs on the back, however it has not raised the front. Do I still need to crank up the torsion bars?
many thanks
Adam |
Yeah you'll still need to crank the torsion bars to level it out, what vehicle is this on?
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RichardD Marshall
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Odometer: 22856 Location: State of Confusion
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 3:56 pm Post subject:
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Welcome to Difflock Adam.
Just a tip from the top, if you have a vehicle specific question like this one you'll get a quicker response in that section. Not that you got a slow one here!
Let me know which vehicle it's for and I'll move it over (or on of the other Mods)
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Adam32 Gate Opener
Joined: 26 Feb 2013 Odometer: 7 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:04 pm Post subject:
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It is a Ssangyoung Korando. Please advise if this is done correctly in reference to the points I make in the question.
many thanks
Adam
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RichardD Marshall
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Odometer: 22856 Location: State of Confusion
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:10 pm Post subject:
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Well, I'm not often right but I'm wrong again
we don;t have a Ssangyong section so you put it in the right place. I've edited the title to give people more of a lead.
PS Don;t worry about asking anything, someone here will have the knowledge. There's no such thing as a silly question, just a silly answer.
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waveydave Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:40 pm Post subject:
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RichardD wrote: |
PS Don;t worry about asking anything, someone here will have the knowledge. There's no such thing as a silly question, just a silly answer. |
Tempted to reply
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Xpajun Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Ssangyoung Korando Ball Joint flip - is this correct?
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The art of flipping is to move a part from the top side of it's fixing point to the bottom (without turning it over - the term is American), so if you've done that you have it correct. The British term "flipping" means to turn over and should not be confused with the American term.
Flipping the top ball joint will not raise the suspension, it is a dubious aid to allowing the torsion bar wind up to be greater
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Adam32 Gate Opener
Joined: 26 Feb 2013 Odometer: 7 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:58 pm Post subject:
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Ok so the ball joint flip just means I can crank the torsion bars further without snapping them. Please could someone just have a look at the pictures as the distance between A and B looks really small and I wondered if these parts would foul when the vehicle is being used.
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Quetzel Just got MTs
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:42 pm Post subject:
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Support under the crossmember so wheel is on full droop, and see what you think. Personally, I'd put it back to standard and wind the torsion bars up for a maximum of 2" lift. What governs the lift would be the drive shaft angles rather than anything else, and 2" tends to be the highest you can reliably go.
On the other hand, if that IS full droop in the photos, then use it but keep an eye out on the upper hub arm for contact marks.
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Xpajun Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:42 pm Post subject:
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Adam32 wrote: | Ok so the ball joint flip just means I can crank the torsion bars further without snapping them. Please could someone just have a look at the pictures as the distance between A and B looks really small and I wondered if these parts would foul when the vehicle is being used. |
I've looked and I really don't know - have you done a flip as I described?
If you have then when the ball joint is in it's proper place on top of the wishbone then that gap between A & B must be smaller...
I doubt you'd snap a torsion bar but you would bottom out the top wishbone on the stops, although flipping allows you to wind up further until the stop is reached
But as Quetzel says, it's not the ball joint that'll suffer, anything above 2" will start locking up your CV joint and put a lot of access load on it, plus a torsion bar lift will alter your camber and start wearing your tyres very quickly on the inside - I'm not sure how much, if anything, you can get back of the camber on a Ssangyoung Korando after a torsion bar wind up
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Adam32 Gate Opener
Joined: 26 Feb 2013 Odometer: 7 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:32 pm Post subject:
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Well I have tested it thoroughly today and everything seems ok. Just one more thing I was wondering was when tightening or undoing the castle nut on the upper ball joint should the keys be in the ignition with the steering lock off? I just wondered about this as those nuts are really tight and wondered if it will stress the steering too much considering the amount of torque you have to apply to them to tighten / undo
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Xpajun Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:33 am Post subject:
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No - the joint swivels on the ball, the nut tightens on the taper
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