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Mitsubishi L200 Demountable camper. Rustic Red Neck Truck.
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Handmade Matt
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Mitsubishi L200 Demountable camper. Rustic Red Neck Truck. Reply with quote

The base vehicle is this Mitsubishi L200 4x4 single cab with 69,000 on the clock and a full Mitsubishi service history.



This is a commercially available demountable camper:




My style is more rustic and traditional though so I'm pulling inspiration from things like these:





I drew up a scale plan to fit the L200:


Today was the first day of construction. In order to have strong jacking points for the legs to raise the camper off the truck I designed some steel joints with longer tangs on one edge to allow the jack arm to actually be inserted into the bottom corners. Here are some photo's of my progress:



Here they are laid out (not to scale.) They will be part of the frame and not visible when the project is completed.


Here you can see how they join the timber and offer a slot for the jacking arm.



It's a small step but we've got to start somehwere. I'll keep this page updates as I go along.

Thanks for reading.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I considered building something similar but bigger for the back of a Unimog

Mainly because

I've always wanted an excuse for a mog.....
It would be "different" on camp sites
I like making stuff
An excuse to buy a mog hell I'm repeating myself Laughing

I also thought about a van chassis cab ie my very own C class motorhome!

Never have the time so I bought a boring but fun box on wheels.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today I made some good progress creating the ply under carriage. Notice the boxes that accomodate the wheel arches of the truck. Theses will not be visible from the interior, on the left it will be at the bottom of some kitchen cupboards and on the right it will be underneath the sofa. In the long term I will fibre glass and epoxy resin the exterior to allow for it to be set down on bricks or the ground without worrying about damp. The pick up loading area will remain mostly dry when the camper is mounted because of the overhang but I anticipate water will get in when driving in the rain.



That beam at the rear just there for temporary structural support at the moment, when I work out exactly where the door will be and how big I will make the door frame and cut that beam to fit. There's method in my madness.

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Why is this forum changing the word for the room where you prepare food to "magic beans?!?!"
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Handmade Matt wrote:


EDIT.
Why is this forum changing the word for the room where you prepare food to "magic beans?!?!"



Because the forum got a few spam posts trying to sell kîtchens, someone suggested it would be a good idea to change the word kîtchen to magic beans - of course it was thought that 4x4ers wouldn't want to use the word kîtchen but quite a number, such as yourself, do but no one bothered to remove the change from the swear filter...


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should be sorted now
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The latest:









The whole shell is lined with DPM plastic to ensure a water tight finish. The external wooden cladding will fit over the plastic, it will not be visible with the end result.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is brilliant! cant wait to see the end result!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is brilliant! It reminds me of the Top Gear episode when they make their own camper vans!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:53 am    Post subject: laden weight Reply with quote

you need to be very careful with the weight factor most camper shell are made with 1inchX inch wood 1/8 ply wood inside 1inch polystyrene sheet infill and very thin alloy sheet covering about 26swg 0.3mm thin on the outside
carrying capacity is one ton about so by the time you have fitted it out you will be amazed how much it weighs also the house type window on the front is not designed to be in a 60mph headwind

sorry if it seems a harsh but i used to build camper vans for a living

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some real progress now. Here is some cladding done. There's still lots of trimming and decoration to be done in the wood work around the edges/ overlaps and roofing but it's really possible to get the idea now.
This has been achieved with 53 hours of labour spread over 7days.



It's possible to see my modification on the origional boring flat fron end design that includes the new three faceted chamfered curve to the fron sleeping bay.


Stay tuned.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that is fantastic

are you not worried about the wind (from driving) peeling the tin roof off?

or if so, how have you or how do you intend to negate it.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: laden weight Reply with quote

octo0072000 wrote:
you need to be very careful with the weight factor most camper shell are made with 1inchX inch wood 1/8 ply wood inside 1inch polystyrene sheet infill and very thin alloy sheet covering about 26swg 0.3mm thin on the outside
carrying capacity is one ton about so by the time you have fitted it out you will be amazed how much it weighs also the house type window on the front is not designed to be in a 60mph headwind

sorry if it seems a harsh but i used to build camper vans for a living


Your concerns are valid. Here is a table that I have created to keep track of the weight, labour and costs. The projected weight of the camper is about 800kg. This is well within the 1200kg payload capacity of the pick up.
The timber windows will be fitted with toughened automotive glass.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toseland wrote:
that is fantastic

are you not worried about the wind (from driving) peeling the tin roof off?

or if so, how have you or how do you intend to negate it.


The tin roofing is screwed into timber along it's whole length through every other ripple. Except the leading sheet which is bolted with four inch coach screws through every ripple. Additionally I may install a front trim that stands proud above the tin edge to shield it from wind force. top speed will be about 60mph with any comfort.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd hope the Police in UK would call a halt to this as soon as they spot it!!!!
Great build but out on public roads???seriously???
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technically it's a 'load'. In which case it would have to be a 'danger to other road users'. So if it holds together the police won't be remotely interested (other than stopping it for a quick look so they can tell the lads back at the station)
Plus its private-use, which knocks a load more police interest off Very Happy

I've moved some nasty loads on trucks. Other than a risk of this body making for a high centre of gravity it's just a very interesting box as far as I can see.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it came out of the top gear garage when they built their campers lol

Steve

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats just brilliant !! Nice one i have been wanting to this for years as it has the best of camping and best ofmotor caravning.it really needs a wood burner now!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh wow, a log cabin you can take with you. Am I right in thinking the front suspension is torsion bar? You should lower it if it is to offset the weight on the back and lower the centre of gravity. Consider wider tyres as well, I know its within the load capacity but having close to an extra ton sat on it is going to increase stopping distances.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for following guys. Like you all say, I see no reason why she's not all safe and above board. Just a little eccentric that's all! Ha.

I've started with the interior now, all insulated and panelled.
You can see the bamboo trim as well as the first layer of foil bubble insulation against the inside of the tin roof which is all sealed and taped in to restrict warm humid air from reaching the cold tin roof and causing condensation problems and moisture collecting. It will then have about 70mm of rock wool insulation before being panelled in.







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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a great wood working exercise but I don't think this is such a good idea on our roads , please don't take this as a dig as its not!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epic build. But I can't help but wonder why you didn't just buy a shed Laughing
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rob546454 wrote:
Epic build. But I can't help but wonder why you didn't just buy a shed Laughing



Perhaps he's not interested in Landrovers Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mud_puppy wrote:
This is a great wood working exercise but I don't think this is such a good idea on our roads , please don't take this as a dig as its not!


I dont's see a problem with it buddy Smile


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rob546454 wrote:
Epic build. But I can't help but wonder why you didn't just buy a shed Laughing


HaHa. Because a shed has no strength, is poorly made and costs more than I have paid for my timber. Not to mention all the other factors.
Try putting a shed on the back of a vehicle and driving down the road.
Additionally, WATCH THIS SPACE. It's only just begun. All the decorative trimming and folk art painting is going to transport this "shed" into another dimension of beauty. Thanks for following and taking an interest though mate.


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Xpajun wrote:

Perhaps he's not interested in Landrovers Twisted Evil


HaHa, I'm not at all interested in Landrovers.
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Handmade Matt wrote:
Toseland wrote:
that is fantastic

are you not worried about the wind (from driving) peeling the tin roof off?

or if so, how have you or how do you intend to negate it.


The tin roofing is screwed into timber along it's whole length through every other ripple. Except the leading sheet which is bolted with four inch coach screws through every ripple. Additionally I may install a front trim that stands proud above the tin edge to shield it from wind force. top speed will be about 60mph with any comfort.


i would definately go with that, possibly bolt it to the front along underneath, and wrap it around the top and over a few ripples, bolting this down too..,

not so much the moment forces applied to the roof that will bea problem, it will more be the consistant force when traveling at speed and turbulance created along that leading edge..

remember galloping gerty?

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I love it.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want one.

Are you sure that window will not implode above 62.75mph

Have you weighed all of the rivets and nuts and bolts you have used, and I definitely heard no mention of the weight of the waterproof material, and if you have a dunny on board you need to get an average turd weight and inform VOSA

I would have used a Land Rover though Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you sure that window will not implode above 62.75mph

Have you weighed all of the rivets and nuts and bolts you have used, and I definitely heard no mention of the weight of the waterproof material, and if you have a dunny on board you need to get an average turd weight and inform VOSA

I would have used a Land Rover though Very Happy


The glass I've ordered is all toughened automotive glass double glazed units. It has to be by law as far as I know. It's SUPER tough.
Landrover... I want comfort and reliability! Ha Wink
HAHA, maybe I should get the average turd weight printed on the log book just in case.
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Payload includes passanger and driver, so add 200kg to your figures.

So many van drivers get caught out by that, and loose there vans Wink

Intresting build loving it, just like some thing penelopy pitstop would be racing against. Wink

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