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very rusty patrol Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Odometer: 92 Location: derbyshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:29 pm Post subject: 1989 subaru pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift now with MOT
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well this was delivered to my house on the 30th of december, I got it of this very forum, thanks mdw.
first job was to get it started
So new battery and plugs, clean the dizzy cap and se fired up strait away, then did the rear brake light bulb.
That was it for the 31st
So into the workshop on the 2nd
Front end up in the air
engine crane rigged up and pipes and wires disconected or losened
front sub frames unbolted and engine lowered
Blocks fitted between subframes and chassis rails these will be braced by 50mm box section before its finished
two subframes on the front both needed unbolting and dropping along with the engine and box
then back end up in the air ready to drop the rear beam
[img:9bcd9cbed3]http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w89/rustypatrol/P1000045_zpsa4d44aff.jpg[/img:9bcd9cbed3]
Blocks between rear beam and body
[img:9bcd9cbed3]http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w89/rustypatrol/P1000050_zps7d6fd22e.jpg[/img:9bcd9cbed3]
Strut extender boxes
[img:9bcd9cbed3]http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w89/rustypatrol/P1000048_zpse6e39d1a.jpg[/img:9bcd9cbed3]
that was that for the 2nd of Jan
__________________________________ I try hard to be normal
1988 Patrol 160 SWB sd33 44s and 12"lift and mog 411 portal axles, SOLD
1993 Patrol 260 SWB RB30 33s and 3"lift, SOLD
1989 Subaru Pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift and 31s
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very rusty patrol Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Odometer: 92 Location: derbyshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:30 pm Post subject:
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ok so onto the 3rd of jan
Started by lowering the brake hose clamp and makeing a extender brake pipe.
and fitted extended flexis at the back for some unknown car, went to the motor factors with a tape mesure but do have box with part number on.
steering colum and top engine steady extended
diff rear support drop plat in 5mm steel welded to old diff bar
New wheels and tyres
31/10.5/15s on deep dish 15x8 wheels
need to convert the car from four stud to six, push out 2 oposing studs and bolt the drum to the wheel
Then use the wheel as a jig to drill the drum. Repeat on the other rear drum and on the front hubs
drop the rear damper mounts, dampers look bad but work very well, will look for some new ones soon. drilled new mounts through to the bed
other than that we only welded the rear cross member, sill ends and the rear inner wheel arches that day.
__________________________________ I try hard to be normal
1988 Patrol 160 SWB sd33 44s and 12"lift and mog 411 portal axles, SOLD
1993 Patrol 260 SWB RB30 33s and 3"lift, SOLD
1989 Subaru Pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift and 31s |
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very rusty patrol Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Odometer: 92 Location: derbyshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 4:32 pm Post subject:
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So onto the 4th Jan
Fitted the wheels
as you can see the front wheels have alot of positive camber so most of the day was spent altering the strut spacers but also the front cross member was welded at each end and extended hooks were made for the exhaust hangers
__________________________________ I try hard to be normal
1988 Patrol 160 SWB sd33 44s and 12"lift and mog 411 portal axles, SOLD
1993 Patrol 260 SWB RB30 33s and 3"lift, SOLD
1989 Subaru Pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift and 31s |
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very rusty patrol Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Odometer: 92 Location: derbyshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 5:48 pm Post subject:
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so up to today
trimed up the arches for the wheels so that I could get some steering lock on
front wheels still have a few degrees of positive camber but it is only a few degrees now.
Also cut bac and welded the A pillers for clearance and did some welding on the cab floor. Gear lever adjusted and 4x4 selector lever mecanisam made up. horn fixed, new wipers, extended servo vacum hose, new engine earth and wipers fitted.
It has moved under its own steam again after the lift as we needed to move it out of the way.
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1988 Patrol 160 SWB sd33 44s and 12"lift and mog 411 portal axles, SOLD
1993 Patrol 260 SWB RB30 33s and 3"lift, SOLD
1989 Subaru Pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift and 31s |
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Neilios Winch Assistant
Joined: 19 Mar 2012 Odometer: 57 Location: North East
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:09 pm Post subject:
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I like it, I like it alot. Whats the gearing like?
__________________________________ 300Tdi Disco pickup.
P38 - V8 off road tool.
BMW E30 soon to be 328i track car.
M140i everyday driver.
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discosteve Just got MTs
Joined: 01 Jan 2012 Odometer: 336 Location: Sunny Barnstaple at weekends on the road during the week
1997 Land Rover Defender
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:13 pm Post subject:
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Nice I would love a brat with impreza running gear
Steve
__________________________________ when i die i want to go peacefully like my grandad in his sleep not screaming like the passengers in his car !!! |
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very rusty patrol Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Odometer: 92 Location: derbyshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 7:22 pm Post subject:
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Not driven if very far with the wheels on yet but it was very revy in standard trim and it seemed to pull away ok in second when I have to move it and we could not find first
__________________________________ I try hard to be normal
1988 Patrol 160 SWB sd33 44s and 12"lift and mog 411 portal axles, SOLD
1993 Patrol 260 SWB RB30 33s and 3"lift, SOLD
1989 Subaru Pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift and 31s |
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simonallen Off-Road Guru
Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Odometer: 1019 Location: In the s**t most of the time...
1997 Lada Niva
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:04 pm Post subject:
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mudplugga on here runs one of these engines in his trialler so I believe and loves it.
is this going on the road?
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very rusty patrol Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Odometer: 92 Location: derbyshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:11 pm Post subject:
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Yes it is going on the road, the MOT is booked for next saturday
__________________________________ I try hard to be normal
1988 Patrol 160 SWB sd33 44s and 12"lift and mog 411 portal axles, SOLD
1993 Patrol 260 SWB RB30 33s and 3"lift, SOLD
1989 Subaru Pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift and 31s |
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Neilios Winch Assistant
Joined: 19 Mar 2012 Odometer: 57 Location: North East
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:21 pm Post subject:
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I think the Impreza Turbo engines are too wide to fit without massive modifications to the engine bay, I was always impressed with the Brats for performance and handling when they came out. I keep looking at them and thinking about another project!!!
__________________________________ 300Tdi Disco pickup.
P38 - V8 off road tool.
BMW E30 soon to be 328i track car.
M140i everyday driver.
110 Hi-Cap build project. |
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very rusty patrol Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Odometer: 92 Location: derbyshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:25 pm Post subject:
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Legacy engines fit but none of the four cam ones do, you have the take large chunks out of the chassis rails and weld them back up.
Would like a 90's 2.2 lagacy lump for the front, nice bost in power and torque with out destroying the gearbox
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1988 Patrol 160 SWB sd33 44s and 12"lift and mog 411 portal axles, SOLD
1993 Patrol 260 SWB RB30 33s and 3"lift, SOLD
1989 Subaru Pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift and 31s |
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maverickwoody Gate Opener
Joined: 31 Dec 2012 Odometer: 6 Location: stamford
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:30 am Post subject:
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took a brat and made it awesome , what arches are u going to use ?
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very rusty patrol Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Odometer: 92 Location: derbyshire
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:27 am Post subject:
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Not sure on arches yet will make up some temp one for now until I find something
__________________________________ I try hard to be normal
1988 Patrol 160 SWB sd33 44s and 12"lift and mog 411 portal axles, SOLD
1993 Patrol 260 SWB RB30 33s and 3"lift, SOLD
1989 Subaru Pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift and 31s |
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very rusty patrol Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Odometer: 92 Location: derbyshire
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:40 pm Post subject:
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So just back from the work shop.
Bottom of each A piller welding finished, had to reshape them quite a bit to fit the wheels.
Finished redrilling the front hubs and put the studs in, so now six stud all round
Cut out the front cross member that was very rusty but not picked up on the last MOT due to it being covered by skid plates.
Then welded on a section of 50mm box with a 4mm wall, nice and strong so in the future I can mount a front bar to it, maybe one like the tamiya brat has on it
The list of jobs to do gets smaller, good job as MOT is booked for saturday
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1988 Patrol 160 SWB sd33 44s and 12"lift and mog 411 portal axles, SOLD
1993 Patrol 260 SWB RB30 33s and 3"lift, SOLD
1989 Subaru Pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift and 31s |
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very rusty patrol Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Odometer: 92 Location: derbyshire
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:50 pm Post subject:
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No photos ot progress this evening as my camra battries were flat.
Rewelded the bonnet hinges and greased then up.
extended the gear leaver as it was a little low now the box has dropped 6".
Remade and adjusted the 4x4 selector for the same reason as above.
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1988 Patrol 160 SWB sd33 44s and 12"lift and mog 411 portal axles, SOLD
1993 Patrol 260 SWB RB30 33s and 3"lift, SOLD
1989 Subaru Pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift and 31s |
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very rusty patrol Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Odometer: 92 Location: derbyshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:49 pm Post subject:
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I has MOT ;D
Well a few last minute jobs like fitting the arches this morning and it was up for the MOT at 10 oclock.
Sadly all the MOT pictures are on my phone and I carn't find the micro SD card reader to get them of.
Two advisories on nearside CV boots and a bit of rust at the base of the drivers side A piller, I would say that is a good result.
So I started 2 weeks ag with this
and wanted something like this
so after after 13 days and alot of time in the workshop I have ended up with this
Have to say I am quite pleased with it. Its a bit slow, very bouncy but good fun
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1988 Patrol 160 SWB sd33 44s and 12"lift and mog 411 portal axles, SOLD
1993 Patrol 260 SWB RB30 33s and 3"lift, SOLD
1989 Subaru Pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift and 31s |
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octo0072000 Winch Assistant
Joined: 18 May 2004 Odometer: 86 Location: doncaster South Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:57 pm Post subject: Bouncy
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have you checked the tyre pressures
whith those wheels about 25 should be OK as a starting point go from there
__________________________________ Slowly, slowly, catchee Monkey (Google it) |
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Philpy Just got MTs
Joined: 24 Nov 2007 Odometer: 349 Location: Cornwall
1985 Suzuki SJ
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:22 pm Post subject:
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Awesome, I love brats!
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TheClunk Off-Road Guru
Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Odometer: 1159 Location: Chippenham
1997 Vauxhall Frontera
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:13 am Post subject:
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You say you want it like the Tamiya Brat. That was 2wd.
It was on the same chassis as the holiday and fighter buggys.
So are you going to convert it to 2wd as well?
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very rusty patrol Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Odometer: 92 Location: derbyshire
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:25 am Post subject:
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More than happy with the 4 wheel drive that it has
__________________________________ I try hard to be normal
1988 Patrol 160 SWB sd33 44s and 12"lift and mog 411 portal axles, SOLD
1993 Patrol 260 SWB RB30 33s and 3"lift, SOLD
1989 Subaru Pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift and 31s |
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TJ_in_Dubai Just got MTs
Joined: 24 Oct 2011 Odometer: 371 Location: Dubai, UAE
1997 Jeep Wrangler
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Bouncy
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octo0072000 wrote: | have you checked the tyre pressures
whith those wheels about 25 should be OK as a starting point go from there |
Indeed. I generally have 22-25 in my 33's on my Jeep. Anything more than that and I feel everything. Makes it much better on the road.
__________________________________ Wrangler TJ 4.0 Sport
33x12x15's
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very rusty patrol Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Odometer: 92 Location: derbyshire
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:33 pm Post subject:
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Will look at that think they are about 28psi at the moment, will drop then down to about 22ish
__________________________________ I try hard to be normal
1988 Patrol 160 SWB sd33 44s and 12"lift and mog 411 portal axles, SOLD
1993 Patrol 260 SWB RB30 33s and 3"lift, SOLD
1989 Subaru Pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift and 31s |
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very rusty patrol Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Jul 2007 Odometer: 92 Location: derbyshire
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:20 pm Post subject:
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Well Big Brat has been doing great service in the snow this week but it has thrown up one problem, over 40mph the steering is very shakey.
I thought this may happen due to the large weight of wheel with a light body on top. I had the problem when I put 38" tyres on my nissan patrol.
So I have spent most of the morning lying in the snow under the front of the truck fitting a steering damper, no photos thought as I was to cold and wet to think about the camera.
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1988 Patrol 160 SWB sd33 44s and 12"lift and mog 411 portal axles, SOLD
1993 Patrol 260 SWB RB30 33s and 3"lift, SOLD
1989 Subaru Pickup (Big Brat) 6" lift and 31s |
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bigammer Articulating
Joined: 25 Apr 2003 Odometer: 635
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:57 am Post subject:
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very nice, I always loved the look of the Brat, saw one in the states on 37`s, looked awesome..
Wish I had bought that when it was on here, but too many projects at moment , need to have a clear out..
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