View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
andypalmer1981 Just got MTs
Joined: 09 Oct 2011 Odometer: 125 Location: The Fens
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee
|
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:42 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
So it's a Musso or a Fourtrack at the moment. If anyone has any other suggestions I'm open to hearing them. Thanks to all who've replied so far.
__________________________________ Andy Palmer
Back with an American V8 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|
its GED Guest
|
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:45 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
one is most welcome.
im here if one needs me.
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
its GED Guest
|
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:46 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
evenin parrot
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
parrotveasey81 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Odometer: 7480 Location: bradford on avon (wiltshire)
|
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:52 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
its GED wrote: | evenin parrot |
leave me out of this
the fourtrak will run on 100%svo
i never tryed it on wvo
my old trak would get around 22mpg
running cost will mostly depend on the condition of what you get
__________________________________ http://www.bloodredoffroad.com/
Angry parrot fabrications,check me out on Facebook |
|
Back to top |
|
|
its GED Guest
|
Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:56 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
parrotveasey81 wrote: | its GED wrote: | evenin parrot |
leave me out of this
the fourtrak will run on 100%svo
i never tryed it on wvo
my old trak would get around 22mpg
running cost will mostly depend on the condition of what you get |
you great big chicken........
but he`s right.
i CAN get 100+ miles for 20L of wvo....
but i choose not to.
and you never tried it on wvo because you dont live near me
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
andypalmer1981 Just got MTs
Joined: 09 Oct 2011 Odometer: 125 Location: The Fens
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee
|
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:30 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
OK, on a different note whcih of the Musso or Fourtrak takes 235/75R15 on standard wheels? I have 4 good tyres that will go to waste otherwise (although I could eBay them).
__________________________________ Andy Palmer
Back with an American V8 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
its GED Guest
|
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:32 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
cough.
musso.....................
although 31" fit no problem
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Alex90 Articulating
Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Odometer: 861 Location: preston, Lancashire
|
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
Another vote for the musso. With the engine being an old german army work horse if it's got an oily substance in the pump it will run. Like I said in a previous post my fourtrak doesn't like starting on 100% svo in the cold up here in Lancashire where as the german engine is designed to start in german winters so a mere English winter is no problem. I'm actually on the look out for a musso myself as I've had enough of my fourtrak and good troopers seem to go for silly money.
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
andypalmer1981 Just got MTs
Joined: 09 Oct 2011 Odometer: 125 Location: The Fens
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee
|
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:57 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
Why am I not surprised, its all starting to feel a little like a conspiracy!
__________________________________ Andy Palmer
Back with an American V8 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
its GED Guest
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
|
its GED Guest
|
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:58 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
andypalmer1981 wrote: | Why am I not surprised, its all starting to feel a little like a conspiracy! |
noone wanted them when they came out
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
andypalmer1981 Just got MTs
Joined: 09 Oct 2011 Odometer: 125 Location: The Fens
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee
|
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:15 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
It would seem to tick all the boxes, even thinking of changing the Maverick for one now!
__________________________________ Andy Palmer
Back with an American V8 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ivorbiggin Mud Obsessed
Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Odometer: 2485 Location: PORTSMOUTH
1996 Ford Maverick
|
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:48 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
All older type Merc engines run on anything without trouble, but beware, When Ged says that Sprinters will run on it too, he is not entirely correct. Later Sprinters went to direct injection and then common rail, its the older OM602 merc engines with Bosch PES rack type pumps that will run all day on 100% crap, the later OM602 engines went to direct injection and used Bosch VE rotary pumps, and are a bit more finniky as to what they burn.
When my Maverick throws in the towel ill be looking at a Musso to replace it or a Ssanysong Rodeious provided it still has the older type OM602 indirect injection engine.
Get a manual trans Musso, Autos suffer with Trans problems which are expensive to repair.
__________________________________ 2.5 TDI zimmer frame. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Alex90 Articulating
Joined: 19 Apr 2010 Odometer: 861 Location: preston, Lancashire
|
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:17 am Post subject:
|
|
|
So what age range of mussos are we looking at that are best Ged? I've seen a 1998 one for sale not so far away but they seem to go up to 2002 which makes me abit cautious as most engines after 1999 have been butchered and hacked up to suit these god awfull emission laws.
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
andypalmer1981 Just got MTs
Joined: 09 Oct 2011 Odometer: 125 Location: The Fens
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee
|
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:51 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
I have been warned by a mechanic friend about gearbox problems on Mussos although he didn't specify autos. I think a Musso would be a better bet than a Fourtrak though, more civilised for everyday use.
__________________________________ Andy Palmer
Back with an American V8 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
its GED Guest
|
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:26 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
yup,
the problem is that the gearbox and gear stick are linked by cables. and they snap.
ocasionally.
but if you carry a spare and a pair of longnose pliers you are on the road again in 10 mins.
or do a direct shift conversion.
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
andypalmer1981 Just got MTs
Joined: 09 Oct 2011 Odometer: 125 Location: The Fens
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee
|
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:05 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
OK, that doesn't sound too bad! I was thinking it was new/rebuilt gearbox time as he said it was due to the electronic transfer box.
__________________________________ Andy Palmer
Back with an American V8 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
its GED Guest
|
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:42 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
ahh, different thing altogether.
mine has never worked, but to be fair, ive never used it.
although someone doesnt know what "if the 4wd works, ill have it"............. means eh spannerman?
on the ssangyong website theres full instructions to sort it, for only a few quid.
i have personally never bothered.
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
spannerman69 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Odometer: 2807 Location: st.helens
|
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:50 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
for a few quid eehh , then lets get it sorted .
__________________________________ member of the dcjc |
|
Back to top |
|
|
its GED Guest
|
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:38 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
spannerman69 wrote: | for a few quid eehh , then lets get it sorted . |
meh, dont need it
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
|
ben_uk Just got MTs
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Odometer: 358 Location: Previously shropshire, now Melbourne Australia!
|
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:37 am Post subject:
|
|
|
does the engine have a mechanical fuel pump, or is it all controlled by an ECU?
just thinking by the sounds of it, its a great engine, in what can only be described as an ugly car.
if its a mechanical pump, then it could be a great cheap car to buy, for the engine to then drop in something else.
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
its GED Guest
|
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:44 am Post subject:
|
|
|
ben_uk wrote: | does the engine have a mechanical fuel pump, or is it all controlled by an ECU?
just thinking by the sounds of it, its a great engine, in what can only be described as an ugly car.
if its a mechanical pump, then it could be a great cheap car to buy, for the engine to then drop in something else. |
says the man with a barbie car.............
nope, the only electronics on the engine is the starter motor. the stop start, fast idle ect is all vacuum.
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
ben_uk Just got MTs
Joined: 01 Nov 2009 Odometer: 358 Location: Previously shropshire, now Melbourne Australia!
|
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:40 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
LandCruiser aint a barbie car!
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
its GED Guest
|
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:08 pm Post subject:
|
|
|
ben_uk wrote: | LandCruiser aint a barbie car! |
and therein lies my point.
besides, do you want to drive it or date it?.............
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
|