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fatboy-beef
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1994 Suzuki Vitara

PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:20 pm    Post subject: vitara rear bumper Reply with quote

i am going to remove my plastic rear bumper off my vit.
why?
because the brackets a rotted and it currently held on with mud.
i want to fit a slightly heavier duty one and i also have some issues under the bumper which concern me, so need to take it off to look at them.
i also have the body mounted lights to put in it as mine are currently in the bumper.




bumper removal is it just a case of removing brackets and it wil come off.

so lights into the body, i have a set of lights and i am after any one who has done this to give me some pointers and advice before i go and do it and screw up my wiring.

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its simple see avtar pic Arrow
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the new lights that fit where your fogs are will just plug into the same plug that your bumper lights fit they did not change wiring simple 2 min job
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as rich says,simple remove two screws on each fog and keep screws,unplug,find the connector to the bumper lights and plug wing lights in,fit wing lights.Mine needed a block under the top clip as the fogs had a plastic clip.Get a flush fit foglight (trailer type £4.99 and screw to door wire through grommets near hinge).Bumper is held on by 4 screws at top and 3 at bottom,maybe 2 clips either side but mine had long since parted company with the wing.
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fatboy-beef
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I got it off yesterday. No real dramas. Just 4 stubborn bolts holding the tow bar unit in place.
Wiring looks like it has been molested in the past.
Will post pics later. As am doing this on my phone

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doing much the same myself, just looking for a suitable replacment Very Happy
but I do have my top lights in place already, just need to re set the fogs
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i got it off, and its a mass of rot on the bumper frame,
hed a rummage in the hole when the lights came out and found the correct connector in there. just clipped in to replacement lights and alls good. makes a change with the vit Very Happy

just need to have a look at the reverse light now as they dont work and havent for a while.
and to sort some replacement bumper and grind off the remainder of the bracket.

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fatboy-beef
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1994 Suzuki Vitara

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok so as promised here is the pics

firstly heres the new lights against the old lights.



firstly i removed the chequer plate cover strip from the top of the bumper and then the tow bar assembly, this was a pain as the bolts had stripped threads and were rusted solid.



then undid the screws that held it in place and then off it came.



this is the wiring that greeted me






so i had a fish around behind the fog lights and found the connections for the lights, fitted both and they work.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bumper metal work is held on by 7 bolts,4 on each chassis end and 2 on the ends at the wing,but had rotted leaving them hanging and 1 in the centre.

For the fog,I used a trailer type one screwed straight onto the back door drivers sidehave now got a sqare number plate which will fit under the door handle in prep for the tank lift.

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1994 Suzuki Vitara

PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the main bumper bracket/ metal work was pretty rotten. it was not atatched at either side and can see four bolts in the middle holding it in place, but bit of wobbling and pulling and it snapped off and am now left with the above,
a pic of drivers side mounting





the red arrows show where the four bolts remain and need sorting out. the green squares show where the bracket was rotted through.
and for the fog light/number plate light i have two little ideas i am going to try out. and if they dont work then i will be using one of those bolt on type lights and a square plate

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got 3 of the them 4 out using a good amount of Freeit(pentrating oil)and wall drive sockets,the other one's anchor nut went,so out came mr grinder.Most useful tools wall drive sockets and a 115mm grinder but watch out for wires. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I changed my lights before the bumper, when i took the blanks off I found that the harness terminated at the light fittings and that an extension to the harness fed the bumper, so it was a straight unplug/ plug in job Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zng109 wrote:
I changed my lights before the bumper, when i took the blanks off I found that the harness terminated at the light fittings and that an extension to the harness fed the bumper, so it was a straight unplug/ plug in job Cool



thats what mine was like, but the extension wiring was shocking to say the least. i just plugged the two ends of the plug together and it was sorted.

the guy who had this car before me had a thing for leds, i have removed over a hundred of them while i have had the car. when you turned them on it was like a giant blue strobe light going off. Very Happy

just one strip of them left to remove when i finally get the front bull bar out ot the way to get at them, but they aint wired up because i have ripped out all the led wiring.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok problem solved Very Happy
no un bolting no fiddly wiring,.......................it fell off as I was poking it Shocked
a masive panic attack, some quick thinking and a bit of H/D gas pipe and a new bumper was born Cool however it looks skimpy, pick it up and you will know its not,
However I am thinking that I might double it up with top and bottom tubes to create a solid 3 tube bumper or get a bit creative on my design,
The current job is a rip off of the mootara (TM) bumper and the number plate is taped to the back window for legal reasons
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

am currently working on three scaf bars with scaf bar spacers and a plate/ spacer for number plate to mount to.....
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't need that much strength in the back bumper as that big round rubber air cushion gets hit first when a vit eventully brakes sharp.Mine going to have a slight reposintioning to be a bit more solid for pulling L***r**** out. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

explain?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zng109 wrote:

The current job is a rip off of the mootara (TM) bumper and the number plate is taped to the back window for legal reasons


if yiou get a square plate, it sits quite nicely below the rear door handle (mine is butted right up against it, and works well)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going to turn it upside down and bolt it to the towbar holes under the chassis and extra holes to the side,simaler to Stealth's(bits4vits rear recovery bar),so bit of work with a grinder after this weekend at Rochdale.Have now got a square plate with light under handle.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where can I get those lights from? =D
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

get em on e-bay,
any way mine is a double scaff bumper like this= but I am going to do this


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---- ---- if that makes sense with the plate lower central. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

funnily i have been working on this again today.




this is a design i am going to go with. the ends will be a bit different and the radius of the bends will depend on what can be achieved with a pipe bender. hopefully 90 at top and bottom meeting in middle

i have incorporated a number plate mount and also the fog lights

will be made out of scaff bar and box section and bolted in to the orginal bumper mount holes. plus some extra bolts around orginal mount.


only question is will the mount be strong enough to mount it and the possiblity of towing it out when stuck

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well this is the "so far"

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

vehicle front,



you can see that the GV rims and suspension has made its self known, plus a minor body lift at the exspense of the vitara plastic, the front bumper is actualy from my old volvo 740,



this shows the forward chasis extensions to accomodate the bumper, they were L shaped steel forklift defences for the racks at work, I just had a better use for them Laughing



side view of the front and the bumper set up, at this point you would be correct in thinking that I am addicted to waxoil, as an ex landy freak I tend to swear by the stuff.



The back bumper taking shape, I have a central (lower) direct to chasis then the upper is just to fill the gap, 2 shorter singles (left and right) will go on the bottom.
The load strap is for towing and not holding it all together.



finaly a rear shot, it needs a coat of paint and it should be ok (lets face it womens make up can be very deceptive, so a lick of paint can do wonders)



any way thats it for now, next trick (after a few glitches have been ironed out) is to put in box steel sills.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and photo bucket was misbehaving as I did this so it all came out wrong Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

horsethief wrote:



just wondering how you made them flaps? it looks like a good way to keep the back of my jimny cleaner when going down farm roads
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wondering why you moved the plate?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zng109 wrote:
I was wondering why you moved the plate?


to keep it legal. illuminated nuber plate and a fog light are mot requirements. i think

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mud flaps dead simple,rubber matting sandwiched between to alloy(free) angles,pop riveted then screwed to body,stenciles for picture.Moved number plate as dropping from rock steps kept bending it up as it was under bumper.now under handle with light under handle.Bumper was strong enough to pull me back onto wheels after my accident Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking at your bumper design fatboy,you mentioned bike carrying.why don't youput some sliding extensions down side of chassis and some channel across them to carry the bikes.
Zng I made some brackets to lift the front bumper to the body work


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