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Waffles / bridging ladders

 
 
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What length waffles should I buy ?
1.22 meters
30%
 30%  [ 4 ]
1.48 meters
38%
 38%  [ 5 ]
2.0 meters
15%
 15%  [ 2 ]
Don`t bother.
15%
 15%  [ 2 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:37 pm    Post subject: Waffles / bridging ladders Reply with quote

I`ve always wanted a pair of waffles, the only thing I always wonder about is the size.

The few times I`ve used them and seen them used I always thought they needed to be longer.

Tracmat do 50mm thick heavy duty ones in 1220, 1482 and 2000 mm lengths.

How am I going to carry 2 meter long waffles on the X-90 Question
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Waffles / bridging ladders Reply with quote

Barnyzuki wrote:
I`ve always wanted a pair of waffles, the only thing I always wonder about is the size.

The few times I`ve used them and seen them used I always thought they needed to be longer.

Tracmat do 50mm thick heavy duty ones in 1220, 1482 and 2000 mm lengths.

How am I going to carry 2 meter long waffles on the X-90 Question


Now your a northener and im a southerner, and we use different terms for the same thing.
So i guess your not talking about those batter /dough cake thingys.
A 2 metre long x 50mm thick waffle is just mind boggling to us southerners.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me Northern Question

I`m from Camberwell Razz

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how wide is you boot lid , Wink fab up some mounts and fix them to the picnic table at the back . Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barnyzuki wrote:
Me Northern Question

I`m from Camberwell Razz

Oi oi saveloy, sarf London boys bite yer legs orf !


Laughing Laughing Laughing

cor blimey geezer best i shut me norf and sarf, oi still aint got a clue what a bleedin waffle is though

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do they do them in pink then? Wink

Simon 'disguise them as surf boards' Owen.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i havent got a clue so i am gonna default to the bigges tis best lol
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted "don't bother". Unless you are in sand or light soil!
They work really well, but on heavy clay, you'll need a hiab to get them back on board Laughing

I was thinking of going 'trailer ramp' type next. Either ally flat or steel rungs?

I asked what else was in the fiberglass range, and could there be one with a hole design that let clay out. But the moulds are stainless steel, so specials would be big money Shocked
I'd need a big powerfull buyer like Difflock Cool

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fill the gaps with expanding foam, should stop them acting like a giant clay slicing ,,,,errrrrr,,,,, slicing things.

Just an idea, can`t see why it wouldn`t work or why no one else has done it yet....

Would anyone like to try it first for me Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The holes are part of the non-slip design - remove them and they'll just slip right out from the mud.


Mind you, they don't actually have to be that small if you think about it - you could cut some out...


And the reason they are that small is because their primary use is to turn a grass area into a load bearing area, as in grass runways etc.

I think mine are about 1.2M - I think they're big enough - they aren't lightweight for a start and go bigger than 1.2 and you can't store them across the truck - 2M I don't believe one person would be able to handle and do you have a 2M+ wheelbase?

Incidentally you need to handle them with gloves, especially after the first use
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 1.2m x 38mm waffle boards, bought on the cheap in a choice of only one length. They work quite well at that length, but occasional a longer one would be better, so I've voted for 1.48m.


Ivor, a waffle 2000x310x50mm is nothing to a proper northerners appetite, some of them actually like the crunchy fibreglass texture Laughing


Steve, If you can come up with a waffle board design that can resist Buildwas clay then I'm sure you will recover the tooling costs quick enough. For small quantities, a metal "ladder" made out of box/angle works well though, but can weight the same as a blocked up waffle board to start with Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For super cheap I used to use old bread trays like this http://www.rehrigpacific.com/products-and-servi...hbt-23-bread-tray .
Cut the sides off , cut the bottoms in half long way so you have 2 strips . They are only a 2-3 foot long so I used bits of nylon rope to tie them together and make them as long as I needed . The rope works like a hinge so you can just fold them up Wink Worked great on my old suzuki Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I put spray foam (technically I sprayed spray foam) betwixt QT diff gaurd and the diff for the same reason, but pressure washing is now an issue Confused
Remember to cover one half in cling film if you do this Wink

I thought about a wooden broom thing, but with pockey square sticks that line up with the waffle holes. It took both me and Terry to lift them from one Brosely section Laughing

I wondered about cutting. I'm thinking the 50mm pitch is there so you can't trip up when its walked on it?
So how much could it loose? Should it have crosses cut out so the holes are double the size? Or cut bits out long ways so the bridging-strength is as good? Or cut loads and give it ally channel side rails, so it is more open but even stronger?

I will give "cut loads out and give it ally channel side rails" a good think.....
It might resurect mine, and I can maybe get them all the way around the outside and welded on. Then they wouldn't be so spikey to pick up, and could have a side handle Cool

Are you ready to stick you pinkys into you're wallet for a new product Idea

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a moth bit my finger last time I went near my wallet Laughing but I'm probably a fairly extreme example in most cases.


I wondered whether just making the waffle boards with a large draft taper on all the side faces so the holes are noticeably tapered would allow it to be lifted off the mud in most conditions rather than mud sticking in the holes. Made from stainless I expect the moulds last a very long time, but a worn one (if such an item existed) could be re-machined to suit.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about....under the waffle board use a sacrificial bit of that black cloth kinda stuff gardeners use to keep weeds from growing ? It's close weave and strong, just cable tie it to the waffle and it might keep most of the clag ( as found in Broseley and Buildwas ) out of the holes in the waffles ? Idea
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nutshot wrote:
For super cheap I used to use old bread trays like this http://www.rehrigpacific.com/products-and-servi...hbt-23-bread-tray .
Cut the sides off , cut the bottoms in half long way so you have 2 strips . They are only a 2-3 foot long so I used bits of nylon rope to tie them together and make them as long as I needed . The rope works like a hinge so you can just fold them up Wink Worked great on my old suzuki Smile

Thats what I like about Suzuki owners, they tell you how to do it on the cheap LOL

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are 120cm x 31 cm and long enough for me to use for crossing ditches in a Jimny & been used for 90's as well.

Not too heavy in this length IMO.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xpajun wrote:


I think mine are about 1.2M - I think they're big enough - they aren't lightweight for a start and go bigger than 1.2 and you can't store them across the truck - 2M I don't believe one person would be able to handle and do you have a 2M+ wheelbase?


3 meters wheelbase, give or take an inch Shocked

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