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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:57 am Post subject: What to buy for best mpg?
Thinking off getting another off roader to do mild off roading green lane type stuff etc, Had a few vits in the past and a disco. It would also be used on a 50 mile round trip to work (mainly motorway) so i could do with looking at stuff with the better end of the mpg.
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:32 am Post subject:
that's why im asking question as my first thought was the Suzuki route then i looked at MPG Would be prepared to do a engine conversion if it was simple enough.
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Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 12:28 pm Post subject:
Won't be much space left in a std. Jimny boot if you stick an LPG tank in there
The only way that'd work is if you removed the rear bench seats altogether, or at the very least half of it... __________________________________ He asked me if I'd seen a road with so much dust and sand; And I said, "Listen! I've traveled every road in this here land!"
the best 4x4s for mpg are likely to be small deisel ones like Grand vitara freelander ect these only have 2.0l oil burners and are quite small.
not sure of the price of LPG these days not many small engined 4x4s will have Lpg fitted so if your looking to buy with lpg most likely will be jeeps ect with big thirsty engines. maybe if your lucky a 2.5 v6 GV with LPG
i can get 31mpg out of my 1.6 petpol Grand vitara with ATs on if i drive it like a nun i dont do town driving though. __________________________________ ITS ONE LIFE, DRIVE IT!
an old diesel vitara does about 40mpg, they run quite well on a % of veg oil as well. __________________________________ 1994 Isuzu Trooper 3.1TD 143,000 miles - Dead
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Buy a second car. A cheap eurobox will be cheaper in the long run than even an MPG "good" 4x4. Even with tax and tests. I budgeted 7k when I replaced my landie. I looked at how long the extra cash would last me in fuel if I bought a 2k range rover rather than the 7K defender. Didn't even cover me for 18months, and that was back in 2005 when fuel was cheaper! Live in the real world. If you want economy don't drag 2 tons of brick shaped metal around.
LPG 67p round here, 77p on the forecourt. If you can get 40mpg out of a diesel vitara that sounds like a real winner to me. I get 34 tops out the pickup tops, 56 out the picasso and I haven't even tried to work it out on the rangie.
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Buy a second car. A cheap eurobox will be cheaper in the long run than even an MPG "good" 4x4. Even with tax and tests...
This is probably the right answer
correct.
Get a cheap corsa b for commuting and whatever you like for weekends! I can get 45 average from my corsa. my mate old clio diesel returns almost 70 mpg if driven carefully. __________________________________ Zombie Disposal Unit
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:02 am Post subject:
Cheers for the replys
Problem with the 2nd car is this would be it, Our main car is a hot hatch doing 30 mpg and my work commute car is a 106 diesel which the last time i filled up i got 72mpg This is motorway driving sat behind a truck and is the car i want to replace
Did not realise you get get a diesel vit, I would not have minded sticking the pug engine in something small but i don't think i could do the clutch/ flywheel bit
I've got one of those diesel 106s... the non turbo one.
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject:
if your doing 50 miles a day on motorways you gonna want some reliable as well something that can 60-70mph happily a frend of mine has a got a r reg shogun swb 2.8 turbo diesel that returns 30-38mpgs on a journeys also has rear diff lock and good ground clearance for offroad as well as being comfy reliable otherwise i would landrover discovery with 300tdi engine would'nt be a bad option ether if you can find a decent one __________________________________ (southern offroaders) facebook
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x taril, crv, rav 4, grand vitara, terios if theres a deisel.
i think suzuki really dropped the ball by not offering the the jimny in a 1.5deisel in this country think its the renault engine thats in the kangoo so mpg in that would be good too.
the kangoo 4x4 is higher than a standard kangoo, french farmers love them im told, wish my kangoo was 4x4 wouldnt of had to use the zook for work this winter lol boss had a shock kangoo 45mpg in town 1.6 GV 24mpg in 4wd round town (2ft snow) __________________________________ ITS ONE LIFE, DRIVE IT!
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Actually that would be ideal but it does not look like it has much clearance or any aftermarket off road bits lol
Standard jimny is very similar. Traction is good, like mentioned the ground clearance is poor but abit of common sence when driving off road like driving on top of the ruts and you would be serprised.
If your looking for good fuel bin any thoughts of land rovers, landcruisers, patrols, shoguns, terracans, sorentos. Like ppl have mentioned, to get above 35mpg average you will need to get a seccond vehicle.
Vauxhall offer the corsa petrol with LPG tank, seen in the motorway maintenance. 2003+, if not, ford fiesta van or fiat punto van, both are classed and plated as comercial vehicles = cheaper insurance and tax.
My parent's neighbor has one.
I've seen it get stuck on a wet grass verge on a 20% gradient.
My 1.0l Lupo parked behind it pulled away without spinning a wheel. No lie.
They also don't like ice. My dad had to reverse his Scooby Forrester up a 50% gradient to rescue it from the 20% gradient.
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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:57 am Post subject:
Thanks for the reply's
Budget wise i was thinking sammy , vit money but i would not mind paying more for something i could use more often just meens i would have to do a bit of saving
You could google 'older Rav 4'
or
just maybe try a google of 'chocolate teapot'
this will probably do.
Some of the older SWB Rav 4's are perfectly OK for some light offroading.
I have seen a few doing Tyro's quite succsesfully,
but you would need to get a cheap one, & then it will start costing you money.
Parts are not very cheap & not readily available in scrap yards.
(i like Toyotas, but its better when they are reliable ones.)
IMO a diesel Vitara in SWB or LWB would be a more economic & cost effective vehicle for you.
My mates mum has one and it gets stuck in like a couple of inches of mud...
Advantages:
* Toyota reliability
* Good fuel economy
* Good light-duty off-road capability
* Good handling; sporty, car-like feel
* Aftermarket part & accessory availability
Disadvantages:
* Purchase price
* Engine noise
* Lack of Engine Power
* Fragile front and rear bumpers
* Expensive to repair body damage
* Inaccessible cup holders (improved for '9
* Spare part cost
re
Kangoo 4x4's,
there are petrol ones that struggle to get much above 30 mpg,
& 1.9 diesels that do better 40 mpg.
Lots of fuel figures found on the net for mpg end up being for a US gallon which being less petrol than an 'Imperial gallon' does mean they look bad.
I got 68 mpg doing 50-55 mph behind a tanker for 35 miles the other day.
It wasnt out of choice,
but since i had just left one petrol station before getting stuck behind the tanker,
i pulled into a garage to see how acurate the computer/fuel gauge was & it only took £3 worth of petrol to brim the tank..
(obviously i wasnt in a 4x4)
george
why does the guy in the rav keep driving with the wheels at 45 degrees? I've seen disco 3's get stuck places like that on road tyres. Then again i've also got stuck in ruts on special tracks What he wants to do is drive where the camera man is stood, looks much flatter and harder there or go back to the top of the hill and come at it at about 90 like a landy owner would
Reminds me of our forklift driver in the snow. Your getting stuck because your turning the wheels 90degrees to the truck, try to keep them straighter and take loner runs at things. 'right ok' ~instantly turns wheels 90 degrees and gets stuck against the lorry. sigh __________________________________ I know enough to be dangerous.
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This is motorway driving sat behind a truck and is the car i want to replace 
