Little tube buggy

Jamie-Offroad · Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:36 pm Post subject:

Could you move the brackets for the radius arms back in the chassis rather then shortening the arms them selves?

baloo · Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:34 pm Post subject:

unimogler · Winch Assistant Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Odometer: 93

one thought regarding rangy axles is with a rover engine, gearbox, props axles and rad could you run in landrover owners club events ? a bit naughty but funny just to find out . a friend has series diffs powerd by a 3.9 on fairly grippy tyres and so far so good, i often wonder how much effect wear and tear has on diff and cv breakage.

baloo · Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:31 am Post subject:

clbarclay · Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject:

hairyguy4 · Just got MTs Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Odometer: 136

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baloo · Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:48 pm Post subject:

baloo · Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:55 pm Post subject:

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baloo · Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject:

right l managed to get a couple of hours on the buggy today, l decided that the top mounts for the shocks would bolt on that way l can adjust the position of the top mounty by just bolting another bracket on with a higher or lower fixing position

bottom mount l have a choice as to which way the bolt can face, having the bolt in the same direction as the axle tube is the neatest

but l think it makes more sense to have it the other way ?

found a nice new 2 lt vitara rad in the shed that l thought would be a good fit

seemed to fit okay apart from the prop will come up into it by about 3" Rolling Eyes

might have to use one of an mgf instead then

if l mount it high l can probally squeeze the fuel tank under it

getting there slowly

baloo · Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:12 pm Post subject:

bent a bit more tube up to make a frame to bolt the radiator to, this pushes the rad back a bit leaving room to get a fuel tank in there a swell

was pondering what to do for a fuel tank had all sorts of visions of welding one up from scratch, maybe a 3 foot section of 6" dia tube with a plate welded on each end ? then trying to blend in by the tool boxes l spotted the answer a fire extingusher trying to hide Smile

anyway it was great fun discharging it Laughing

it now has a new life as a fuel tank

challengersteve · Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:49 pm Post subject:

know what you mean about the extinguisher discharge i am a service engineer and the only way to empty a powder one is to full discharge it what fun Wink

gawxo · Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:03 pm Post subject:

Nah , he,s just a "big kid" .............

Andy , any idea of a completion date ?? [ test purposes only ] !!!

Looking good , JP.

baloo · Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:08 pm Post subject:

sure am

not sure on finishing date due to work but l am on the home straight now, l know where all the bits fit, as soon as its done l will get this one and marks on the back of my transit and bring them up to you

fourtracksteve

how big do extinguishers come ?
l might need more range Smile

Andy

offroad 68 · Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:17 pm Post subject:

Andy, are those spacers on the shocks a bigger od than the ones supplied with the shocks? There is not a massive amount of movement on the rose joints and bigger od spacers will make it worse.

I like it, looks a good quite simple design Very Happy

baloo · Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:35 pm Post subject:

challengersteve · Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:09 pm Post subject:

you can get a 150L wheeled one for mega range
9L is the biggest normally allowed for health and safety reasons as a loaded 9L is about 15KG so it has to be operated by hand

I may have a condemned 9L water (no body damage just wrong bs no) at work that i may be able to acquire if interested

clbarclay · Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:17 am Post subject:

That fire extinguisher does sit nicely their, but lay on its side like that it would be prone to fuel starvation on side slopes when say less than quarter full. Mounting vertically will reduce that risk.

andy4w · Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:57 am Post subject:

Diesel Destroyer · Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:24 pm Post subject:

They are also very thin..

The one that was fitted to your buggy Andy was split around the bottom..

Shocked

Blue dragon · Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:27 pm Post subject:

Andy

Looking great. How about squeezing the battery in under the rad, and then go for the tank vertical on one side and the exhaust vertical on the other ?

Will try to get over for a look soon.

Keep at it.

Mark

baloo · Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject:

hi chaps

l did start with the tank vertical on the one side but it looked like some one had strapped a fire extinguisher to the back of my buggy for a laugh Shocked

so it will definatly go back upright if need be,
l did think about the fuel pick up and reasoned rightly or wrongly that if l put an outlet at each end on the bottom but size big ie about 20mm then fed these down to a tee piece before dropping down to the 6mm that feeds the pump, that way which ever way it tips it will still see fuel at 1/8 tank at greater than 45 degrees

please excuse my sketch computer drawing is not one of my strong points

does that make sense ?

baloo · Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:51 pm Post subject:

ps: battery is under the passengers knees as this puts the positve terminal 2" from the starter, shortest wiring loom in the world Laughing

more wieght saved lol

andy4w · Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:32 pm Post subject:

Hi Andy,

Is that a stirrup pump you've drawn Wink

, how do you vent the tank from the top, would be on the tank or cap. ?

Buggys coming on great by the way Cool

Andy

Al thanks for that info

Andy

baloo · Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:34 am Post subject:

minimog · Off-Road Guru Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Odometer: 1700

your drawing of the fuel tank if your using a pump would it not draw air down the open end and cause fuel starvation
it would be far easyer to fit a baffle or even foam fill it to stop the fuel sloshing about

simonallen · Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 11:03 am Post subject:

I think so too, as air gives less resistance than fuel so it will suck that instead

aniesigh · Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 6:55 pm Post subject:

it won't draw air untill it is at such an angle that the Tee piece isn't full of fuel, as Andy's straight blue line shows in the second pic the fuel when at that angle will still be in both outlet pipes

baloo · Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:36 pm Post subject:

well l am glad there are different views on whether it will suck air or fuel as l have thought both Rolling Eyes

first thoughts were that it would just suck the fuel out of the right hand branch followed by the air but then l got to thinking that the wieght of the air ( 1 bar?) above the fuel in the tank would force it down the left hand branch as soon as you emptied the right hand branch this would keep the tee full at least untill you ran out of fuel Smile

but it's all acerdemic really as who drives around with the tank 7/8 ths empty or 1/8 full, a ranger rover and an sj have a flat bottomed tank that would probally not be able to pick up fuel if 1/8th full and parked on a 45 degree side slope ? the easy answer is to keep the tank half full ?
marks crawler only has a 1 gallon tank and has never run out or been a problem the fire extinguisher looks like 3 gallons and the metro engine only sips fuel

managed to call past the laser cutters on the way home tonight and picked up a bargin bucket of tabs, l couldent carry the sackfull far to heavy, think l used up all his offcuts lol

andy4w · Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 8:08 pm Post subject:

Looks a useful bucket of off-cuts Andy Laughing

Think I've sorted petrol tank out, Rich (Rockwatt) is going to make a Ali one for me Smile

andy

baloo · Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject:

side view for Phil81uk

if it isent readable pm your email address and l will send it directly to you