rear steering

lamby2009 · Just got MTs Joined: 25 Nov 2009 Odometer: 271

i would love to rear steer my challenge suzuki sj has anyone done with thus before any write up and what would i need to do this ? is it worth doing as at the mo i am in middle of revamping mt sammuria axles as have two fornts with arbs what do people hink

piggy · Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:49 pm Post subject:

firstly i would have a go on the spell check

hi, i love rear steer, but would thought an sj to be short enough!!!
the only prob i see are another set of cv's, fitting it would be easy from memory the pumpkin is drivers side front and passenger rear, so front axel will spin round to fit rear

silver zuk · Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:45 pm Post subject:

piggy · Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:03 pm Post subject:

ooh I'm so sorry, just cut the case flip the diff and re-weld, that is how i did the land rover one, sadly, silverzook, its been quite a while since i have worked on these little toys, i have been playing with full size ones, i think my unimog once ate an sj for a snack

4x4rick · Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:40 pm Post subject:

yes its been done with a sami front axle

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=801115

if i were to do it myself i would use stronger axles, shafts ,cv's to start with.......

teamidris · Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:39 pm Post subject:

It seems like the front steers you in a straight line and back tries to steer itself in a bad fippin' way Laughing

So it will need to be very strong in the steering links to keep the rear axel pointing ahead under acceleration. And the axel inards will need to be as strong as the existing rear axel, even on full lock.
If you can park forward into a ditch, turn the wheels on full lock and give it the full beans backward, then that's the front axel you want on the back Very Happy

One trick is to only steer the rear half way, so the CV's are never fully stressed.
Go for it. It'll be a laugh, and you can say you've done it Razz

silver zuk · Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:47 pm Post subject:

4x4rick · Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:54 pm Post subject:

forkrentfitter · Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:14 pm Post subject:

if you are serious i have a ram suitable and a 12v hydraulic pump and resevoir.

unimogler · Winch Assistant Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Odometer: 93

hi lamby, i did a rear steer rangy and it is every bit as much fun as i hoped, it runs totaly standard internals and 32inch tyres and has not broken, yet . idris is spot on that the cv's seem to let go when on lock and as your wheel base is short you may not need full lock on the back. cutting the axle is straight forward, i found a bit of 7" box to use as a jig , just to keep things square and true. talking of wheel base would there be any gain in making it a little longer to get fore and aft stability as the rearsteer will give you a super short turning circle. realy hope you have go at this and look forward to some pics. fred