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series dougie Gate Opener
Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Odometer: 1
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:20 pm Post subject: series landie weave
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Hi just bought my first landie a series 2a on camac terra 4 x 4, the main issue so far is that it weaves massively are there any comon known causes to this or is it just my general ignorance of how it should drive. Any advice much appreciated a couple of mates have also driven it and the collective opinion is that it is borderline dangerous!
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Ray_Jnr Banned!
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Odometer: 4671 Location: The Northeast
1987 Land Rover 90 TD
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:33 pm Post subject:
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HI and welcome to the forum!
do you mean the steering as vague and wandering?
the rack or other steering components may be worn.
The swivel's or a wheel bearing may be loose!
jack up the front wheels one at a time, try to wobble the wheel up down and side to side, if it wobbles get a mate to put the brake on, if it still wobbles your swivels need adjusting, if not its a wheel bearing,
if your steering checks out okay and its just bouncy it may just be because your not used to a series land rover, cart springs werent built for comfort, for a bit of improvement you can replace them with parabolics.
if id does actualy weave, are you sure you didnt accidentaly buy a loom?
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Stal1878 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Odometer: 3320 Location: Somerset
1990 Daihatsu Fourtrak
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:35 pm Post subject:
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if id does actualy weave, are you sure you didnt accidentaly buy a loom?
XD
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DENT Just got MTs
Joined: 10 Apr 2009 Odometer: 264 Location: dorking
1964 Land Rover Series IIa
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject:
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series landys will wonder a bit down the road if the above is done and it seems fine you may want to test the swivel preloads incase a PO has them poorly adjusted
but they do wonder a fair bit if your used to a modern car
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mnl Articulating
Joined: 10 Nov 2001 Odometer: 826 Location: West Midlands
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Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:45 pm Post subject:
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Assuming you have checked for play in the swivel bearings and steering linkages, and found none, it may just be what you are used to.
Relax at the wheel, and guide it along, it will drive itself, only apply a slight correction to keep it in the correct lane as it starts to drift out.
If you hold the wheel too tight, you overcorrect the steering, (rather like Robbie the Robot used to drive Fireball XL5, see sawing the steering all the time).
A series does snake along in a series of very shallow curves (no pun intended)
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teamidris Mud Obsessed
Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Odometer: 3372 Location: Staffordshire UK
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:46 pm Post subject:
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^^^ Spot on
But there is plenty of joints that all add up to make it worse if they are worn. Make sure the steering box isn't loose as well And the U bolts are tight on the axel.
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mudplugga Mud Obsessed
Joined: 23 Oct 2004 Odometer: 2798 Location: Shropshire mostly, and Mid Wales
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:37 pm Post subject:
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Does it weave more when you apply the power ( such as it is ) and then back off?
An axle that is loose on the one side, knackered U bolts, will move around one side and steer the vehicle.
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Let Luce Mud Obsessed
Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Odometer: 4018 Location: Derbyshire
1977 Land Rover 101
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject:
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just get someone to sit int eh drivers seat and wiggle the wheel whist he looks at all the steering components, replace any worn ball joints, check for play in the box (they don't have a rack) and the relay and rectify as required.
Series driving is abit of an aquired art.
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Let Luce Mud Obsessed
Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Odometer: 4018 Location: Derbyshire
1977 Land Rover 101
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:45 pm Post subject:
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just get someone to sit int eh drivers seat and wiggle the wheel whist he looks at all the steering components, replace any worn ball joints, check for play in the box (they don't have a rack) and the relay and rectify as required.
Series driving is abit of an aquired art.
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pete_mills Just got MTs
Joined: 10 Feb 2002 Odometer: 221 Location: Cambs / Beds
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:06 am Post subject:
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Just check it isnt in four wheel drive as that DOES cause a weave on a series landy if used on dry roads for long periods of time as ther're part time 4wd.
(Check this by pulling the red lever back, then all the way forwards, the yellow knob will pop up if it was in 4wd).
Pete
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seriesdriver Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject:
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Check tires for un even ware.
Although there was no play in my S111 LWB steering it would react badly to poor road surfaces at anything over 35mph. Fitting an after market steering damper cured this.
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pdw666 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Odometer: 2043 Location: West Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:29 am Post subject:
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Borrow some wheels and AT or road tyres, stick em on, and see if it makes a difference.
I once fitted Camac tyres to my ex mil 88, it was undriveable over 40. changed to BFG MTs, and though noisy it drove OK
Pete
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