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des332 Just got MTs
Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Odometer: 203 Location: Gibraltar
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:05 am Post subject: Which older pickup?
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Im getting rid of my unreliable turd of a range rover and going to buy an older pickup but don't know much about them
Im looking at older hilux's and l200's what should I be looking out for do
any of them have any sort of difflock?
how do they perform off road?
what sort of weight can they take?
anything else I should consider? tata?
I dont mind if its battered as it will be getting used but they seem a little over priced
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cynic-al Mud Obsessed
Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Odometer: 6062 Location: scunthorpe
1989 Suzuki SJ
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:47 am Post subject:
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some have a rear lsd, don't think any have a locker
Most of the 'heavy weight' 4x4 will carry a tonne for company tax reasons. The medium ones carry whatever the manufacturer decides.
Offroad they are long but perform the same as anything else really.
The nissans have known issues with the engines.
The fords have known issues with the fuel pumps.
Hilux & L200 hold their money stupidly well. I don't know much about the isuzu? There was also the vauxhall brava. Proton & Skoda also did 2wd ones.
The first place to go is usually the bed and the chassis under the bed if its a working one. If its a 4x4 the drivers seat and sill is usually pretty worn due to getting in and out of a high vehicle.
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Little Tank Just got MTs
Joined: 22 Feb 2009 Odometer: 389 Location: launceston
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:04 pm Post subject:
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forget the nissan's and fords, there ok work horses but ***** offroad, and as for shitsubishi's there dear on parts and give a crap mpg return so find a hilux you'll be a much happier person if you buy one.
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paul_humphreys Off-Road Guru
Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Odometer: 1272 Location: Oswestry Shropshire
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:37 pm Post subject:
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I would say Hilux aswell.
Paul
__________________________________ LC 80 series 1993. 285/75/16s Cooper SSTs, OME 850s on the front with 25mm packer, 868s on the rear. 4.88 diffs. Winch bumper with 12000lb winch.
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Stal1878 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Odometer: 3320 Location: Somerset
1990 Daihatsu Fourtrak
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:56 pm Post subject:
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Hilux.
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oshimon Mooch Master
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Odometer: 6786 Location: Jerusalem. Israel
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Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 10:42 pm Post subject:
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Both the Hilux and the L200 come with the option of a factory fitted rear locker (not LSD).
Older (pre '96) Hilux's with the live/beam front axle also had the option of a front locker as well.
The pre '96 Hilux drives like a dog on the road - worse than a zook even. Very bouncy and 'jolty'. Noisy. No power up hills (didn't come with a turbo in those models).
Later (ifs) models with the turbo are much better and (due to IFS) more comfortable).
L200 is more comfortable on the road with better manners. Plenty of power and a smoother ride.
Off road?
Beam axle Hilux with lockers any day of the week. Even better if you get one with a good turbo conversion (be careful, it's a difficult conversion and if not done properly will end in tears before bed time as nanny says).
Between the IFS L200 and IFS Hilux...............?
Not much in it.
So far the Hilux has had less problems and seems to perform slightly better off road but the difference is so small that it is down to drivers and not vehicles.
L200's over here have been known to have cylinder head/over heating problems (not on a regular basis but more common than on the Hilux), problems with the front crank (? - bottom one anyway) pulley as it can come slightly loose and eat the bearing and destroy the shaft. Pneumatic front locking hubs seem to have a tendency of failing/blocking but again, this is only in comparison to the Hilux and if they do fail they close automatically.
Simon 'loves all three dearly but would only sleep with one of them' Owen.
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Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:50 pm Post subject:
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I refer Mr Mooch Master to the following image. Again !
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oshimon Mooch Master
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Odometer: 6786 Location: Jerusalem. Israel
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:16 am Post subject:
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You just wont let it lie will you?
It's like you enjoy picking the scab off a freshly healed wound to revel in the pain it causes...............
It's not my fault that your stupid Nissan pick ups are about one meter longer and 60cm's lower than the ones we have over here is it?
Simon 'and the ground at gwaxos place is higher up as well' Owen.
__________________________________ There are some days when even my lucky underpants can't help.....
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andyb66 Just got MTs
Joined: 18 Jun 2004 Odometer: 236 Location: Ferndown, near Bournemouth
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Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:46 pm Post subject:
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cynic-al wrote: | The nissans have known issues with the engines. |
Only the later D22s with the YD25 engine. Get an early one (recessed headlights but looks the same) and you get the bullet proof but more agricultrial TD25 engine. Mines has done 130k miles and no complaints at all. Got LSD in the rear, A/C and 6 disc CD all for half the price of a same age LR D110 crew cab.
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gawxo Mud Obsessed
Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Odometer: 3657 Location: wirral
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Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:49 pm Post subject:
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oshimon wrote: | You just wont let it lie will you?
It's like you enjoy picking the scab off a freshly healed wound to revel in the pain it causes...............
It's not my fault that your stupid Nissan pick ups are about one meter longer and 60cm's lower than the ones we have over here is it?
Simon 'and the ground at gwaxos place is higher up as well' Owen. |
You have nowt to be ashamed of simon , Barneys is the only truck ever to be stuck in that section ,
[ I am looking to revive the "Xmas Bash " again , any interest??. JP.
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