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Improved niva snorkel
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bouts21
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Joined: 21 Oct 2006
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Location: Winnipeg, MB


1995 Lada Niva

PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good, clean setup from the outside! How did you run the piping inside the motor compartment and through the sill?
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jbuzz
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gav is busy at the moment so here is how it was done

Hole cut in panel


Clips screwed to A pillar


Bellows from swivel chair attached to plastic drain piping


Painted and a pre filter from a fergie tractor to top it (now replaced)


Industrial vacuum hose (off the local tip) coupled up to the air filter

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bouts21
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Location: Winnipeg, MB


1995 Lada Niva

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I C said the blind man!! I thought that the sill was separate from the motor, but after I looked at the pic, I went out and checked on mine and realized that the sill is not separated. Nice job.
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nivaman
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i see said the blind man to the deaf man but the deaf man wasn't listening.
has Gav tried it through deep water?.
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ahorton
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Joined: 28 Nov 2006
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Location: Western Australia


1988 Lada Niva

PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bouts21 wrote:
I C said the blind man!!


nivaman wrote:
i see said the blind man to the deaf man but the deaf man wasn't listening.


Now you've brought back my childhood of a dad saying "I see I see the sea said the blind man Blee, who couldn't really see the sea at all!"

More on topic: What difference does the new snorkel make? Were you needing more air?

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93 Lada Niva 1600 Carb in bits and pieces

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bouts21
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1995 Lada Niva

PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may have to look at a snorkel as well, over here there seems to always be a water crossing or deep mud puddle to get through. Trying to follow 35" sized tire trucks can be a "wet" experience!
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nivaman
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bouts21 wrote:
I may have to look at a snorkel as well, over here there seems to always be a water crossing or deep mud puddle to get through. Trying to follow 35" sized tire trucks can be a "wet" experience!


i know what you say there, over here most of the guys think the bigger the better tire wise.
must be small willy syndrome Razz Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same over here, and you should see the mess they make on the lanes! Really churn up the ground! And they need 35" tyres to get through ruts that the Niva does on 29" ones. They ground out, we don't.
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Giovanni
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gav,Nice job and all.With the snorkel flexy tube in the engine bay where do you place the factory car jack now?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Factory car jack? What's that? Very Happy
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cosmo0
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Bellows from swivel chair attached to plastic drain piping"
" Industrial vacuum hose (off the local tip) coupled up to the air filter"

Very Happy Very Happy

I love it, that's my kind of mod.

Just picturing you emerging from a swamp in that!
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nivaman
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gav
can you supply pics of what your snorkel looks like from inside, as if you are sitting on the drivers seat and does the snorkel restrict your vision where it is mounted on the pillar?.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as it's on the driver's side pillar, visibility shouldn't be a problem. The passenger side is another matter!!
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gadgetboy
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the snorkels on both pillars and I can't see either. Remember, they're fairly hefty pillars.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two snorkels?? Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One for the engine and one for the heater intake ....... I don't like wet feet!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite logical! Very Happy
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Giovanni
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does the wind blown rain water drain out from the tubing?
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manos
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

giovanni wrote:
How does the wind blown rain water drain out from the tubing?


http://www.4x4connection.com/tech/snorkeltech.htm

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nivaman
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gav what size pipe have you used?
I assume the the sizes are standard around the world?.
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igal
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also build a snorkel now. I have 2.5 inch inner diameter pipe. It's a little more then the air inlet diameter, so it should be fine.

I started to drill the hole same place as Gav, and not in the bonnet (I don't like that). Hole there is a little tricky. and of course my wheel is on the other side then Gav's, so on that side I have the Battery.

Only problem is, and I only thought about it AFTER drilling, I saw that in the forum:
Quote:
Baxter:
Alternately, you can cut the hole in your bonnet instead of the scuttle if your local authorities frown on the modification of structural members as they do here in NZ.

Hope that won't do any problems for me here. Cause they do like to frown here Smile

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igal
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not forget the pictures. It's just took me forever.
I have the snorkel installed. Don't have a top for it yet. Will have to find something until the winter - so I have few months for that.

Putting the flexible pipe through the hole was hard. So eventually I put a short pipe, and then connected it to another pipe - Hope it's good enough.

Also visible in these pictures are my new mirrors (From Fiat Piorino I think), and my another not finished project - dual battery. It's possible to see the wires from one (and for now, only) battery going inside the cabin - through the glove department - Will post another thread about it when it's finished.






And the most important - See the blue sticker on the window? That mean I passed the yearly test for this year!

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jimb0
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1989 Lada Niva

PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some pictures of my snorkel. I've done it a bit different to most of you guys. I've gone trough the top of the bonnet and have welded a bit of pipe onto the air cleaner instead of going onto the thermostatic thingy. That should keep the water out a bit better. I've also sealed up the air cleaner with silicone because they are only spot welded together and are not watertight from the factory. To cover up the hole in the bonnet I have used some magnetic rubber cut to shape, it hides my misjudgment when cutting the hole making it look neat.

The head is a Donaldson Air Ram 3" ID. I bought it off an eBay seller for $35AUD. Much better than paying $95 for a safari snorkel head. I am going to get one of the Donaldson Pre-Cleaners that centrifuge out the dust and use that in the dry season.
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madman
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you guys talked me into it! I was going to get one from these guys. http://www.parque4x4.com.ar/equipamiento/snorkel/index.html But DAMN is shipping expensive!!! Shipping costs twice the price of the part Rolling Eyes !!! So I went to the hardware store and put down $30 for some PVC pipe and fittings and I was done in an hour. I should have done that months ago. Live and learn.
Thanks for the inspiration fellas! Very Happy

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bouts21
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol I found my snorkel in the bed of my pickup! It's the hose and attachment from an old vacuum cleaner we were throwing out! fit perfectly!! Now it's a Lada Hoover, or a Hoover Niva, or a.....
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niva_feeva
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed to score a safari snorkel from work, not for a niva but the angle is spot on, mine will be entering from the side of the bonnet but lines up perfectly with the air box if i remove the plastic tubing with the winter/summer switch. With the snorkel i was given a sock looking uni filter, wich slots in up the top, would u guys recomend just using this and ditching the filter inside the stock air box? Also did anyone notice any power increase after fitting one?


On the subject of going under water, ours is a 1.7 single point model, what else needs to be water proofed before attemting to cross the swan river?
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simonallen
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would use the sock filter personally. also before you start going too deep, I would move the coil pack to a higher location, then you're good to go!
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madman
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep the original filter in place, Niva Feeva. I read somewhere that the uni filter is more for sound deadening than an air cleaner.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ready for this?
I've wondered, in the past, about using the 'A' pillar (windscreen) as a snorkel. Enter from under the wheelarch, in the recess behind the wheel, and an intake at the top of the screen.
Who's going to do it? I'm sure it will work, provided enough air can pass.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could have a problem sealing it at the bottom?
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