can u put a tube in tubless tyre

[johnboy316]

i went to a garage to get a punture done they said they couldnt fix it small hole in the side wall and tried to get me to buy a brand new one at 80 pounds its only a slow punture its a tubless tyre cant it have a tube put in

[muddymesser]

might be best put in the tyres section

[muddymesser]

because its a tyre question

[Nobby]

i run tubes in a tubeless tyre no probs but then i run beadlocks

[FreddieS]

YES ITS FINE!

Oh god hte hassle I had with my garage, they failed my toledo saying it had tubes in tubeless tyres.

I foolishly went and had the tubes removed and resealed etc etc and then contacted VOSA (i think) and asked them and theyve said it is completely legal, you can fit tubes into tubeless tyres.

Alas, i found out £50 later that I couldve just argued it and he wouldve had to pass me!

[scut44]

People are answering yes you can put tubes into tubless tyres.
Correct -ish.
Anyone can do anything they like.
Should they tho

I take it these are for the road?
What type of tyres
On what type of wheels
& how small a hole in the sidewall,
where in the sidewall & caused by what?

Mr Tyre will give the reason for the differences i hope when this gets moved to the tyre & wheel section.
george


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[johnboy316]

tyre is a colway c trax mt on a suzuki weller rim its only a small hole takes a couple of hours to go down dont know where abouts on the side wall the hole is

[carnut]

you can run tubes in tubeless tyres, you can even get a tube relating to aspect ratio, ie 195/70x14 which basicly means low sidewall wide width.
some years back, most off roaders ran tubes (it keeps the tyre pressed againts the bead,) wire wheels need to run tubes, there are no tube type tyres avalible any more.
if you have a small hole in the sidewall or shoulder of the tread, you can get them hot vaulcanised, you then wont need a tube. but it cost!! other than that, its a small patch(so to stop nicking the tube) then a tube.
what you may find, is your local tyre dealer will say tubes arnt avalible,
you need to go to a wholesaller. in and around bristol there are a few
ive just put one in a 31-10.50x15.
andy

[seagei]

are you sure it cant be fixed? i had a tyre that had a great big bit of metal sticking out of it, took it around to a couple of tyre places and they said they couldnt do it and i would need a new tyre. so i spoke to my uncle and he told me to go try where he goes to get his machinery tyres fixed and they said they could do it no probs. they hot melted it and that was 8months ago and holding up strong. cost me 20squid but thats better than having to buy a new tyre.

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Guy in our Club recently took a chuck out of the side of one of his tyres. As suggested above he took it to a tyre place that did a lot agri repairs and they were able to fix it. He now uses it as his spare and it has stayed up for the past lot of months.

[Mr Tyre]

According to the BS standard you CANNOT put a tube into a tubeless tyre to repair it and haven't for a long while now, thats one of the reasons that lots of tyre companies refuse to fit tube into LR rims even though the rim design requires it when they fit tubeless tyres.Going against the BS standard makes the tyre fitter who fitted the tube liable against any injuries and or deaths caused by the tyre letting go for any reason at all why do you think most tyre companies ask for mileage etc and then list the tyre fitters name on the invoice it's so they have someone to blame if something goes wrong.You can get sidewalls on tyres repaired by most if not all good tyre companies, the turnaround is a week or so as some people have already said in other postings.

[seagei]

and if you have a hole in your tyre and you dont repair it and choose to use a tube instead, then surely the hole in your tyre will get bigger?

[Mr Tyre]

Correct, which could lead to the tube being punctured, which could lead to a sudden deflation.

[carnut]

what about if you run wire wheels??

[Mr Tyre]

[quote="carnut"]what about if you run wire wheels??[/quote

Tubes (unless other stated) have to be fitted to centre lock wire wheels.

[shogunben]

i had a massive gash in my tyre get it re vulcanised! costs 20 quid and can save most tyres!

[I NEED NEW TIRES]

Fill the tube with water,cheapest bead locks ever!!

[scut44]

1 gallon of water weighs 10lb,
so say just 2 1/2 gallon per tube = 25lb,

25 x 4, + the spare in case we use it, = 125 lb, = just under 9 stone.

doesnt sound much untill you try and roll that up hill as an un-sprung weight.
& what would half filled tyres do rolling down hill in a little Sammy.

I have used water in back tyres of empty pickups off road years ago,
that was in the tyre, not in the tube.
& have read of Eurotrucks etc use it as an aid in trials in the rear tyres of Mogs etc.

As means of being an internal beadlock bead , doubt it,
the tyre would need to be at least 3/4 full of water.
Someone that does maths can tell you the cubic capacity of a 37" tyre maybe.
george


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[muddymesser]

isnt that what the yanks do in rock crawlers to give more low down weight and help keep the tyres on the ground

[scut44]

Your exactly right,
& with 250+ bhp & a light vehicle,
it's a good idea to keep the rubber side down.

It doesnt work quite so well with 80 bhp & a full weight body,
& maybe a passenger or 2.
even less so with 60bhp
george



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[muddymesser]

it will be much more work for the engine in a suzuki and more work on the brakes so not really worth it unless its offroad only

[YotaDave]

I wouldnt think your bearings would last very long either!

[scut44]

YotaDave,
sadly i dont need to the wheels you have for sale at the bottom of your signiture just now,
or have spare cash to buy them for future use.

They look the dogs,
i will no doubt regret not taking them now.
I hope you get them away, worth every penny IMHO
george



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