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david p Guest
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject: my ongoing project . im selling excess stuff i dont need
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on a disco 1 5 door with the archs cut out to the flared bit .
4 inch springs
2 inch spring spacer
2 inch body lift
making 8 inch lift overall and say rough county plus 11 shocks on minus 2 mounts and cones all round
what tyre size would be possible?
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david p Guest
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject:
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35s on 11 inch lift
just wonder what was possible without going to portal axles?
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Ray_Jnr Banned!
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Odometer: 4671 Location: The Northeast
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:39 pm Post subject:
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you dont realy want to be going over 35's gearing will be greatly reduced and the truck will handle like a dog with no low down power.
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david p Guest
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject:
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im on a 3.5 :diff now and was thinking of going to 4.75 diff
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facomkid Articulating
Joined: 31 May 2008 Odometer: 739 Location: aston clinton- aylsbury
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject:
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in your signiture it says v8tvr ? do you have a tvr engine init or is that plans for the future ? surely if you do there wont be a real need to change the diffs. as the extra bph could cope with it being a bit under geared right?
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david p Guest
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:11 pm Post subject:
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facomkid wrote: | in your signiture it says v8tvr ? do you have a tvr engine init or is that plans for the future ? surely if you do there wont be a real need to change the diffs. as the extra bph could cope with it being a bit under geared right? |
yep its a 92 350i one, well bottem end of one and the top fuel rail and stuff is disco
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big_patrol Mud Obsessed
Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Odometer: 2620 Location: Rossendale
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 3:39 pm Post subject:
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How big are you looking to go as with that lkift you could probably squeeze 38's on but i hope you have many spares for th axles.
Thats a lot of lift if especially if your prepared to trim the arches.
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jeepmadmike Mud Obsessed
Joined: 08 May 2005 Odometer: 4573 Location: between 6000+7000 rpm and Devon
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject:
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my mate had 35"s on his disco with much less lift. you'll also get very good at changing diffs and CV's
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david p Guest
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:45 am Post subject:
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im thinking around 37 to 39 inch tall overall
something like this
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holyzeus Just got MTs
Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Odometer: 220 Location: London
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Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:24 am Post subject:
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david p wrote: | im thinking around 37 to 39 inch tall overall
something like this |
without that snorkel i hope
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david p Guest
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject:
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holyzeus wrote: | david p wrote: | im thinking around 37 to 39 inch tall overall
something like this |
without that snorkel i hope |
nar kept it out of harms way
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facomkid Articulating
Joined: 31 May 2008 Odometer: 739 Location: aston clinton- aylsbury
1991 Range Rover 3 Door Classic
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:56 pm Post subject:
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what do you think you gain from the huge lift? maby bob tailing it would be a good route to go down to?
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scut44 Guest
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:19 pm Post subject:
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I think he acheived what he wanted.
'The look'.
& a very high centre of gravity & an unstable vehicle.
I hope there isnt going to be much weight going on the roof rack?
Looks like an accident waiting to happen sadly.
george
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facomkid Articulating
Joined: 31 May 2008 Odometer: 739 Location: aston clinton- aylsbury
1991 Range Rover 3 Door Classic
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:27 pm Post subject:
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what do you use the disco for can i ask? is it social and pay and play use or do you go on experdition trips even then whats the massive lift about? beucase as like whats been said that roof rack fully loaded is gonna make one un stable landrover, and im no expert at offroading in fact i can say iv only ever driven once but thats what im building my range rover for,
seb
aka facomkid
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david p Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:57 pm Post subject:
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haha you dont honestly think it runs on the road without anti roll bars do you
point 2
by the end of december the axle track with be 5 inches wider on each side making 10 inches in total on each axle
point 3
back shocks with be going to twin gwynlewis4x4 3 postion shock mounts with plus 11 shocks
point 4
front shocks will be fully adjustable ones maybe
point 5 rollcage fitted
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big_patrol Mud Obsessed
Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Odometer: 2620 Location: Rossendale
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:05 pm Post subject:
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anti roll bars will not lower the centre of gravity.
You have sent the cog way up in the sky between the lifts and the added weight up top. All this is being combatted by only 4 inch track gain.
Yhe point is you simply dont need to go this high and running this size of tire with out serious pennies being spent on the axles will just result in to a fast groing scap pile on your drive.
A well thought out 2-4 inch lift that travels well with 33's on a disco will be much more effective than what your planning. Chopping the arches is the best way to get the the big rubber on not just lifting to the sky.
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scut44 Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject:
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point 6, (back to the roll cage)
even more weight added to the already high centre of gravity.
David p, I really dont want to slag your vehicle.
I am just at a loss to its purpose.
It is very high, & very noticable.
Its obviously taken time & money, but what is it being built to do??
& where is it to be used.
Its only my opinion,
but as an off-roader it will be hindered by its height
& possibly its weight.
As an on road vehicle, is it not a handful to drive?
george
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david p Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject:
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yes i agree a cage would add weight but surely the safety with a high truck would be crazy not to have one in black route section offroad.
on the road , well dave from llama 4x4 reckon it would be an animal on the road which can only mean
drive it with respect not like a bull in a china shop.
i think i can counter balance the centre of gravity, low down by having 2 underslung lpg tanks , usal underbelly gaurds and have both winches once fitted low down
front one inside the steering guard abit and the rear chassais mounted underneath the rear crossmember
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scut44 Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for that.
Have you driven it on a 'black route section offroad' someplace?
or do you mean thats your aim for it?
george
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david p Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject:
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facomkid wrote: | what do you think you gain from the huge lift? maby bob tailing it would be a good route to go down to? |
bobtail
sorry but if your going for maxuim attack
bobtail disco on a shorten wheelbase snubnosed
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david p Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject:
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j44gtw wrote: | Thanks for that.
Have you driven it on a 'black route section offroad' someplace?
or do you mean thats your aim for it?
george |
does devil pit count
clay pit bombhole at aston warkshire ?
hard sections at abingdon festival?
high hill bit at farley quarry
high hill droop at wildmoor
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scut44 Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject:
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I dont know these places,
but if they are 'black routes' then good on you. Your braver & a far better driver than me.
I love the bob tail look. What an amazing transformation.
To me it just looks so right.
Have fun.
george
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david p Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject:
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tthere only one thing that bothers me arent really short wheelbase unstable if there high compare to a long wheelbase of the same height
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scut44 Guest
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject:
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I have had several off-road/play bobtails.
Only the rear body/overhang was bobtailed,
never the wheelbase shortened.
They didnt sit high either.
As long as the tyres have room to move without fowling anything.
Strength & reliabilty is the secret i believe.
If you can get that & still be light you have cracked it.
george
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holyzeus Just got MTs
Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Odometer: 220 Location: London
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Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject:
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j44gtw wrote: | I dont know these places,
but if they are 'black routes' then good on you. Your braver & a far better driver than me.
george |
you're being far too diplomatic George,
with that big a lift off road on any sort of incline/sideslope you are asking for trouble.
looks good but totally unusable for anything other than posing
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Ray_Jnr Banned!
Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Odometer: 4671 Location: The Northeast
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Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:45 am Post subject:
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great truck you have their mate a load of work and money must have gone into it, how many uj's do you eat in a week?
i have said this before and im saying it again, call me a miserable git if you wish...
I have never realy seen the point in lifts, I have been offroading now for about 3 years, I have had an interest and been a winch bitch for much longer. I dont have a lift on my 90 and i wont get one, as i simply dont need one, it seems most people cant wait to buy a truck and lift it to the heavens and then call it a BEAST!
Most of what gets people stuck is actualy diffs dragging or crap tyres aswell as just pathetic driving.
fair doo's on some vit drivers and disco owners who wanna fit 33" boots, but a huge lift isnt always the answer, get cutting those arches, or put up with smaller rubber, your transmission will thank you for it.
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david p Guest
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject:
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i dont think i really could cut anymore about of the arches and doors theres 2 and half inches cut out already
pic below , if i remember is 38/13.50/16 on 2 inch spring lift and 6 inch body lift
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sitrials Articulating
Joined: 28 Apr 2009 Odometer: 527 Location: Peterborough/Stamford, Lincs
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject:
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I've seen that silver one!
its from the grantham area, looked very unstable off road at slow speeds let alone on it!
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david p Guest
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 8:19 pm Post subject:
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sitrials wrote: | I've seen that silver one!
its from the grantham area, looked very unstable off road at slow speeds let alone on it! |
i would have throught body sway would have been the biggest problem
i mean 10 spacers 6 inches high with any sort of extra bracing must be and interesting ride
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big_patrol Mud Obsessed
Joined: 10 Sep 2006 Odometer: 2620 Location: Rossendale
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject:
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They dont look like 38's to me 35's at a guess
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