HELP WITH TURNING MY DISCOVERY INTO AN GREENLANER/OFFROADER

[sj416beast]

Hi i have had a lot of Offroader's from nearly standrad to full on extreme ex lrm feature discovery.

I bought my 300tdi xs about 6 months ago to use as my everyday vechicle as i sometimes transport cars on a twin axle brian james. Any way moving on lol. I have decided i want to now use it for a bit of green laning nothing too extreme as i still need to use it for towing.

Im really unsure how to do it, i was trhinking of putting some 235/85/16 insa turbo's and removing the front lower splitter and fog lights? Or do i put some bigger tyres like 285/75/16 and put a 2" procomp lift on it.

Whats the biggest tyres i can fit without lifting it??
How will it tow with bigger tyres and a lift? (i need it to still tow)
What lif kit and lift would you recommend?
What tyres would you recommend?

Im trying to do this little project on a budget eg second hand tyres and possibly second hand lift kit (i was thinking of ebay) I dont want to spend more than £500 as i already have an offroader that i tow to pay and play days, this is just for a bit of green lane fun??

Thankyou

(This discovery is for sale on here but im going to keep it now)

[Let Luce]

Spend £500 on maps and leave it as it is. ok maybe put some AT's on it.

[terence]

ive cut the front valence off and fitted xzls, removed ARBS goes everywhere i want it to

mines a 5 door 300

[sj416beast]

I dont understand lol

( fitted xzls, removed ARBS goes everywhere i want it to )

[scut44]

He removed the 'anti roll bars'.
not his 'ARB air lockers'.

I hope.
Maybe he did, we are all going back to basics at present.
The acceptable face of 'green laning'.
george

[sj416beast]

That makes sense now

So do i lift it and put it on some 31's/33's or just put some normal mud terrains on it?

[scut44]

Its totally up to you.
Only you know how you drive.
Green laning doesnt really require big tyred offroader destroying the countryside. IMHO

& offroading is down to how often & where & what you are doing.
& how much road work you need to do really.

Why not take a few bits off,
fit good recovery points & use it for a few weeks, then decide what you need.

Snow this week first tho.
have fun.
george


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[terence]

yes i removed the anti roll bars, to improve articulation

and fitted muddies,

rear recovery only on mine so i go first in a drive.

it gets used as a gun bus , during the pheasant season, and poodles around farm .

gets into forrests , doesnt like tree stumps and really gloopy mud , but then what does

[sj416beast]

Thanks again

I think wat i will do is remove side steps, front valance and possibly get some mud terrains?

I only use it for road if i get a recovery job as i do car collection and delivery service.

Still unsure the green lanes are quit bad around me?

[sj416beast]

Any more ideas???

[crazymac]

Sounds like yours is used very much like mine.

Majority of time on the road, towing trailers fairly regularly some of the time near the maximum weight with fairly regular trips off road, not extreme stuff just a fair amount of laning?

The only additional thing mine does to that is once a month into trial sites as a winch recovery vehicle, not anything extreme just access and occasionally having to winch myself back out!!!

Mine has had new suspension, not lifted, just new!

Front valance was removed but since buying the winch I now have a winch bumper!

Heavy duty steering bars (did have a steering guard but took that off as it was as much trouble as without!!)

235.85R16 Mud terrain tyres (Cooper STT's)

and thats about it!

To be honest, most of the time I could get away with AT tyres, its the Recovery side once a month that really requires the muds.

[Let Luce]

Maybe I should have been ab it more elaborate in my response. It's designed to do everything you specified straight out of the box, why spend money where it's not needed. One thing that could be a good investment, would be an easily removable tow bar.

[sj416beast]

Thanks again, so confused lol

Just been offered some 285,75,16 grizzly claws wat would i need to do to get them to fit?? Thanks

[discochips]

Mine's got 31" MTs with no lift.
It did need a camel cut on the back though and I might need to trim the fronts too cos it's a bit close.
Obviously had to take of the front valance.

Overall it still looks fairly standard and not like a great big f*** off off roader (well to me anyway, maybe not to your average Prius driver)

[david p]

[sj416beast]

Would it be nasty to tow with with the 285/75/16 and a 2inch lift??

What is the biggest tyre i can fit before a lift??

Thanks

[terence]

right i have to say it your a chav..

everything has been, whats the biggest, lifted... a least three people have told you it will do what you want without any , or very basic mods..

you seem intent on ignoring this.

i run xzl's which is the standard OE fit at 31.6inch. with no cutting or lift.

phew...........

[sj416beast]

Sorry im no chav just dont want to regret what i do? Every offroader i have bought has pretty much been built before i bought it so didnt know where to start from standard. Thanks

[bigbadtonka]

if you go for 265's you will need to get extended arches to be road legal, I stuck with 235/85/16's to keep them in the arches. i had to cut the rear (camel cut) AND the front including my rock sldiers! to get them to fit.

Insa turbos are great off road as close as your going to get to lockers they just grip and grip, I have found them good on tarmac wet/dry as well.

You will also have to fit a 2" lift or you will catch the top of the tyres in the arches on spead bups! Chances are your disco is sitting a little low as the springs will be sagging a little due to age, so a 2" lift spring will lift it about 3"

pPLease DO NOT buy second hand springs the will be Knackered!! Thats why they are for sale. Unless you know hte seller and the history,

Get 4 2"+ shocks and springs for about £200-250 and 4 Insa turbos. you will be amazed at were it will go!

[Oceantreader]

IMO you shouldn't lift it at all if you use it for towing. The Disco is perfectly good out of the box for greenlanes... though you probably want some AT's.

[crazymac]

[sj416beast]

Thanks bigbadtonka

Im going to treat myself i cant belive how moody some people are on here? I dont want a second vechicle as i already have an pure offroader an evo 6 and my discovery i just want my discovery to be a bit better?

I think a set off 235/70/16 or 235/75/16 mud terrains and see how it is?

Thanks

[sj416beast]

[Paul McCleary]

If you are planning on towing heavy trailers with it, then stay away from the more aggresive Mud tyres. Tyres like the Insa Special track with be a handfull in the wet under load when braking. They are great for getting going, but reluctant to stop. You will find the trailer shoving you everywhere.
One of the best tyres for all round and longevity that still get you going in the sloppy stuff, but have good road manners is the BF Goodrich MT. Your not going to win any challenge events with them, but they are great to tow on. The BF AT's are even better on road, but obviously not as good in the mud.
A few of my customers are builders/tree surgeons/land maintenance etc and all have Discos with 1" OME lift, 235 BF MT's, and a tank guard with detachable tow hitch. They all green lane and tow huge trailers for work with no regrets or complaints.

Petes pictured below is running some very wide 32 1/2" Mickey Thompsons with a 1" lift on the front and a 2" lift on the rear. We added the arches and cut the wings and rear doors out rather than add lift. The higher rear lift was to transfer more weight to the front wheels to get the car to turn in better as Pete is a rather enthusiastic driver and with over 500bhp on tap you want it to get round bends.
As you can see it is on AT's and is perfectly happy on a green lane.


Paul.

[terence]

my point thus, people who greenlane with massive tyres ruin it for those who follow

totally unesscessary and rediculous, a standard landrover will go pretty much anywhere out of the factory.

all these bolt on mods are just tailoring to a specific need.

a good driver , who has been properly trained , will get a landrover further than some half ***** wannabe with all the toys.

[bigbadtonka]

hi SJ416Best

Don't get rialed by Terrance he loves a good argument! he is right though you do not need a massive lifts and hugly aggressive tyres to go everywere in a disco. They are amazing with only a good set of tyres.

I ran 235/70/16 MT Amazons (same as insa Sarahas) for 5 years 3 on a RRC and 2 on my Disco. They were very good and did not distroy trackes. Not sure about towing as all i used it for was taking the Sanky 2 milles through town to the skip and back. The price for 4 is very good as well.

INsa Special tracks are aggressive and i would not want to take mine on a green lane BUT they are so grippy, if driven well they will move forward were others will spin and dig.

I would sudgest you buy springs before fitting bigger tyres my RRC had old springs on and cut chunks out of my brand new Amazons when i went over a mini Roundabout!

[sj416beast]

Thankyou all again

What springs would you recommend, i have been looking at some yellow heavy duty springs for about £100 they reckon they are heavy duty and also have a 2"lift?

I also had amazons a few year ago and to be fair they was a good tyre not to harsh but never really got stuck.

I think after reading every ones advice/moans i am going to put some normal size mud terrains unsure of make but probably amazons and a new set of heazy duty springs. I will remove the anti roll bars and side steps?

Thanks

[sj416beast]

[quote="terence"]my point thus, people who greenlane with massive tyres ruin it for those who follow

I agree but my local green lanes 20 miles away (driffield) have been used by idiots with 37" tyres and the ruts are too deep now and have ruined it for the normal green laners , im no idiot or chav i just want to be confident in my discovery.

Im planning a trip to wales in febuary green laning thats why i wanted to put some tyres on etc

[sjmark]

do the research yourself and get what you want your better off reading other peoples threads than getting flamed in your own lol also dont ask about big tyres then just because a few people say you dont need them they ruin the lanes etc etc all of a sudden the people laning on big tyres are idiots NOBODY likes a brown noser as i said think about what you want do a few searches if you still cant find any usefull threads get the heat proof suit on and start another thread lol i run special tracks 285/75/16 some may say abit ott for laning but they are a very good tyre in the deep sloppy stuff that said i ran a set on my l200 and there horrid on road theres pros and cons of all tyres theres no such thing as a perfect tyre im affraid

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