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Trialler lengths.

 
 
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jamietdci
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:22 pm    Post subject: Trialler lengths. Reply with quote

I am currently building a land rover based trialler, we are currently at the stage where we are about to chop the chassis, we arent entirely sure what length we want it, what do you think is the ideal length for a trialler?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you mean the length of the wheelbase?
I like 88", because this is what i first used.
(its almost the same as a jimny is now)
A 90 is 92.9" wheelbase,
its what ever will suit you or the build.

Do you have regs or a class to comply with. ie AWDC

If its overall length that matters?
I would be keeping any over hangs past the wheelbase you choose to a mimimum withhin the regulations.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have looked at the tech specifications on our club website and the only information regarding w/b is that it cannot be less than something silly like 60 inches. Im not really building it for a particular class because as soon as i put dumpers and fiddles on it its class 1 anyway, this meaning that i can make it whatever length i want.

It goes without saying that most F+R overhang is going to be chopped off.

We already have a 86" trialler, this was very pleasant to drive, i liked the way it handled at that length,

I just wondered what other peoples views were on the subject.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a chap who trials with SCOR and AWDC who has an LR/RR based trialler with a wheelbase of about 86" simply because that makes the front and rear prop shafts the same length.

I have too say that too much shorter and it is difficult to fit engine and box in there without having a silly short rear prop and all the assocaited problems.

80" inch is do-able, look at the SJ, but the engine is very compact Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

80 inch is as short as i would want to go depending on engine and gearbox as the rangie auto will not fit , well not if you dont want a non existant prop i am starting a build and thats going to be 84 inch as it is a nice combination also a mate did have a 75 inch class 1 and it was almost as wide as it was long and felt like it was going to roll over forward on not very steep hills but dont forget that the early landrover series 1s were 80 inch
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are six classes of vehicles permitted in the Mid Wales Four Wheel Drive Club Ltd Trial Championship. These are as follows: -


Class 1: STANDARD - Current Vehicle Excise Licence & Test Certificate.
Vehicle with wheelbase less than 86 inch.


Class 2: STANDARD - Current Vehicle Excise Licence & Test Certificate.
Vehicle with wheelbase of 86 inch and over.


Class 3: MODIFIED - Vehicle with wheelbase less than 86 inch.


Class 4: MODIFIED - Vehicle with wheelbase of 86 inch and over.


Class 5: SPECIALS - Vehicle of any wheelbase.


Class 6: MODIFIED+ - Vehicle of any wheelbase.


I know a few of the West Wales guys are now trialing with us, so it's worth knowing which class you might be in if you trial with more than one club.

All the regulations for the Mid Wales Club are here. -

http://www.midwalesfourwheeldriveclub.com/main%...20hand%20book.htm




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PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our regs (West Wales 4x4 group) are off line just now as they are being tweaked for the coming season, but basically we have 5 classes

We have a minimum wheelbase which if I remember right is 76 inch.

class one is standard vehicle less than 88 inch

class two is standard vehicle more than 88 inch

class three is a bit more modified less than 88 inch

class four is a bit more modified more than 88 inch

Class five is modified pretty much anything goes except axle lockers.

Every class must have a minimum or rear hoop and stays with class five needing the full works

Personally I reckon the 80 inch is the ultimate trialer especially if done as a "push me pull you" (two Rangerover front ends welded together)

If you click the "my website link" below my post it will take you to the West Wales site.

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