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bertie_bas205
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Exhaust jacks.... Reply with quote

Do any of you use these things? They attach to yer exhaust and can lift up to 4t....


Any input/views would be appreciated..





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CarpeDiem
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen the draper 3ton ones in use, seem handy enough in certain situations, and reasonably priced.
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Roger
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This info. might be a bit late, but yes I have a Draper one.

Never needed to use it in anger yet but as it cost me about £10 I couldn't resist it.

In theory it should be ideal for use on sand and mud as it will spread the load well.

Only time will tell.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure the lift is enough for your vehicle. There are jacks that are designed for cars with a 1 ton/300mm lift. Just about as useless as it is possible to be for an offroad truck.

The 'serious' jacks seem to be made in AUS and cost a packet.

I guess its a compromise between highest lift, weight capacity and pack-down size. No point carrying a huge one if it takes up more room than a jack.

I've had one on my wish list for a while.
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bertie_bas205
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know there are cheaper ones out there.....

I'll buy a couple and try em out...

Simon, would ye be interested in one???





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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The good thing about an air jack is that you can shove them under your axles, better than putting a Hi Lift under your bumper and then remembering you have long travel suspension! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have got me wondering now Bertie.

I must try mine out.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damian wrote:
The good thing about an air jack is that you can shove them under your axles, better than putting a Hi Lift under your bumper and then remembering you have long travel suspension! Laughing

That's the biggest benefit. being able to slide it into places that you can't get a jack or where the surface is very soft ,like sand, so it can spread the load.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damian wrote:
The good thing about an air jack is that you can shove them under your axles, better than putting a Hi Lift under your bumper and then remembering you have long travel suspension! Laughing



A good bottle jack is better and safer then a Hi Lift jack and is considerably cheaper then some exhaust jacks.

If using a Hi Lift jack you need either restraining straps fitted or use a ratchet strap!

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Roger
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.ironman4x4.com list the Maxi exhaust jack, 4.2t lifting capacity, 750mm lifting height.

Cost is $240 Aussie. dollars

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bertie_bas205 wrote:
I know there are cheaper ones out there.....

I'll buy a couple and try em out...

Simon, would ye be interested in one???





bertie.
save your money and have a read of this.......
stolen from SS forum and as steve posts on here as well i dont think there mind http://shropshire-suzuki.co.uk/forum/viewtopic....ilit=exhaust+jack

some of the pics you need to be signed in
my only comment ild make is......damage your exhaust while your offroading would make your JACK redundent

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Roger
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just had a trial run of my "Draper" air jack.

Picture 1 shows a successful lift with the wheel 3" off the ground.

3 other attempts failed. One under the chassis rail, one under the diff. and another under the axle adjacent to the wheel.

Points to note:-

1) getting a kink free hose is critical.

2) you get covered in soot and ex. gas when you remove the hose.

3) positioning the bag is fiddly.

The second picture shows the bag fully inflated. That is a 24" rule in front of the bag.

The air bag stays in the garage. I will use the Toyota bottle jack with a plywood base plate.

The air jack would better suit a lighter vehicle.

Roger


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Roger
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Put the hose assembly through the washing machine along with my work clobber.

30 deg. wash and the rubber funnel that you shove onto the ex. has split.

Poor quality.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just another point, These are not only useful for changing a wheel, they can be used to get you out of the soft stuff, particularly sand where you might need to raise yourself to get sand ladders underneath.

And if you have onboard air it wouldn't matter if your exhaust was knackered, although it would take ages, you can fill them using a compressor and suitable adapter.

Probably not wise to have this as your ONLY method of jacking a vehicle but they're certainly useful enough.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a bridging ladder between the chassis rails can sometimes be used to increase the positioning under the car

a square of carpet also helps asa shoe for it to protect it from stones and spread the load on soft sand / mud.

the use of biodiesel will make filling and unfilling a more pleasant experience altogether
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bertie_bas205
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

terence bantha fodder wrote:
a bridging ladder between the chassis rails can sometimes be used to increase the positioning under the car

a square of carpet also helps asa shoe for it to protect it from stones and spread the load on soft sand / mud.

the use of biodiesel will make filling and unfilling a more pleasant experience altogether


Good thinkin Batman, always said yer a smart ar*e........





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Roger
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last comments from me.

It's a ****** to get back into it's bag.

It could be used to push a vehicle sideways, away from a tree or wall.

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sae70
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I destroyed two of the Draper ones testing them @ some length Smile

Points to note:-

Keep them well away from anything hot, sharp or uneaven Surprised

Don't use it to lift the back end up as the whole vehicle rotates over the air jack till it falls off Surprised

In order to get the Draper one that I was testing to correctly inflate lifting my Vitara required engine revs around 3500rpm Surprised And then BANG Shocked

Personaly I would not bother with any of 'em cheap or expensive! Not even for light vehicles.

Get a Hi-lift some waffles & spend some time playing with them learning to use them correctly Smile

Here's some pics,











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