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bertie_bas205 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Odometer: 4388 Location: ABERDEENSHIRE
1985 Land Rover 90nad
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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject: Exhaust jacks....
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Do any of you use these things? They attach to yer exhaust and can lift up to 4t....
Any input/views would be appreciated..
Bertie.
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CarpeDiem Just got MTs
Joined: 11 Mar 2007 Odometer: 297
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Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:53 am Post subject:
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I've seen the draper 3ton ones in use, seem handy enough in certain situations, and reasonably priced.
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Roger Mud Obsessed
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Odometer: 2050 Location: Redditch Worcestershire
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject:
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This info. might be a bit late, but yes I have a Draper one.
Never needed to use it in anger yet but as it cost me about £10 I couldn't resist it.
In theory it should be ideal for use on sand and mud as it will spread the load well.
Only time will tell.
Roger
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SimonWH Guest
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:06 am Post subject:
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Make sure the lift is enough for your vehicle. There are jacks that are designed for cars with a 1 ton/300mm lift. Just about as useless as it is possible to be for an offroad truck.
The 'serious' jacks seem to be made in AUS and cost a packet.
I guess its a compromise between highest lift, weight capacity and pack-down size. No point carrying a huge one if it takes up more room than a jack.
I've had one on my wish list for a while.
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bertie_bas205 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Odometer: 4388 Location: ABERDEENSHIRE
1985 Land Rover 90nad
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:16 pm Post subject:
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I know there are cheaper ones out there.....
I'll buy a couple and try em out...
Simon, would ye be interested in one???
bertie.
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Damian Mud Obsessed
Joined: 12 Jun 2002 Odometer: 8838 Location: Bolton, a town far, far away....
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject:
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The good thing about an air jack is that you can shove them under your axles, better than putting a Hi Lift under your bumper and then remembering you have long travel suspension!
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Roger Mud Obsessed
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Odometer: 2050 Location: Redditch Worcestershire
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject:
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You have got me wondering now Bertie.
I must try mine out.
Roger
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SimonWH Guest
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject:
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Damian wrote: | The good thing about an air jack is that you can shove them under your axles, better than putting a Hi Lift under your bumper and then remembering you have long travel suspension! |
That's the biggest benefit. being able to slide it into places that you can't get a jack or where the surface is very soft ,like sand, so it can spread the load.
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leeds Just got MTs
Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Odometer: 244 Location: Leeds
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:03 am Post subject:
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Damian wrote: | The good thing about an air jack is that you can shove them under your axles, better than putting a Hi Lift under your bumper and then remembering you have long travel suspension! |
A good bottle jack is better and safer then a Hi Lift jack and is considerably cheaper then some exhaust jacks.
If using a Hi Lift jack you need either restraining straps fitted or use a ratchet strap!
HTH
Brendan
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Roger Mud Obsessed
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Odometer: 2050 Location: Redditch Worcestershire
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:57 am Post subject:
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www.ironman4x4.com list the Maxi exhaust jack, 4.2t lifting capacity, 750mm lifting height.
Cost is $240 Aussie. dollars
Roger
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4x4rick Off-Road Guru
Joined: 06 Dec 2007 Odometer: 1900 Location: J25 M25
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:20 am Post subject:
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bertie_bas205 wrote: | I know there are cheaper ones out there.....
I'll buy a couple and try em out...
Simon, would ye be interested in one???
bertie. | save your money and have a read of this.......
stolen from SS forum and as steve posts on here as well i dont think there mind http://shropshire-suzuki.co.uk/forum/viewtopic....ilit=exhaust+jack
some of the pics you need to be signed in
my only comment ild make is......damage your exhaust while your offroading would make your JACK redundent
Ricky
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Roger Mud Obsessed
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Odometer: 2050 Location: Redditch Worcestershire
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject:
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I have just had a trial run of my "Draper" air jack.
Picture 1 shows a successful lift with the wheel 3" off the ground.
3 other attempts failed. One under the chassis rail, one under the diff. and another under the axle adjacent to the wheel.
Points to note:-
1) getting a kink free hose is critical.
2) you get covered in soot and ex. gas when you remove the hose.
3) positioning the bag is fiddly.
The second picture shows the bag fully inflated. That is a 24" rule in front of the bag.
The air bag stays in the garage. I will use the Toyota bottle jack with a plywood base plate.
The air jack would better suit a lighter vehicle.
Roger
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Roger Mud Obsessed
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Odometer: 2050 Location: Redditch Worcestershire
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject:
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Put the hose assembly through the washing machine along with my work clobber.
30 deg. wash and the rubber funnel that you shove onto the ex. has split.
Poor quality.
Roger
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SimonWH Guest
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject:
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Just another point, These are not only useful for changing a wheel, they can be used to get you out of the soft stuff, particularly sand where you might need to raise yourself to get sand ladders underneath.
And if you have onboard air it wouldn't matter if your exhaust was knackered, although it would take ages, you can fill them using a compressor and suitable adapter.
Probably not wise to have this as your ONLY method of jacking a vehicle but they're certainly useful enough.
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terence Guest
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject:
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a bridging ladder between the chassis rails can sometimes be used to increase the positioning under the car
a square of carpet also helps asa shoe for it to protect it from stones and spread the load on soft sand / mud.
the use of biodiesel will make filling and unfilling a more pleasant experience altogether
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bertie_bas205 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Odometer: 4388 Location: ABERDEENSHIRE
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Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject:
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terence bantha fodder wrote: | a bridging ladder between the chassis rails can sometimes be used to increase the positioning under the car
a square of carpet also helps asa shoe for it to protect it from stones and spread the load on soft sand / mud.
the use of biodiesel will make filling and unfilling a more pleasant experience altogether |
Good thinkin Batman, always said yer a smart ar*e........
Bertie.
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Roger Mud Obsessed
Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Odometer: 2050 Location: Redditch Worcestershire
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Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:58 pm Post subject:
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Last comments from me.
It's a ****** to get back into it's bag.
It could be used to push a vehicle sideways, away from a tree or wall.
Roger
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sae70 Just got MTs
Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Odometer: 142 Location: Near Chelmsford, Essex.
1994 Suzuki Vitara
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject:
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I destroyed two of the Draper ones testing them @ some length
Points to note:-
Keep them well away from anything hot, sharp or uneaven
Don't use it to lift the back end up as the whole vehicle rotates over the air jack till it falls off
In order to get the Draper one that I was testing to correctly inflate lifting my Vitara required engine revs around 3500rpm And then BANG
Personaly I would not bother with any of 'em cheap or expensive! Not even for light vehicles.
Get a Hi-lift some waffles & spend some time playing with them learning to use them correctly
Here's some pics,
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sae70 Just got MTs
Joined: 09 Nov 2007 Odometer: 142 Location: Near Chelmsford, Essex.
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Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:36 pm Post subject:
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