Ebay advice, seller trying to bail...

Bala Boater

Hi.

I just won this on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem...item=330302924352

And the seller is trying to bail, he sent me this when i messaged him to arrange collection:

Hello I don't know what to say to you.
I put this land rover on my ebay for one of my naighbours sons, my wife just popped in to let him know the good news and he informed her that he meant to let us know last week that he had decided not to sell the car now and was keeping it for work, well I was gobsmacked to say the least, I really am so very sorry and I really dont know what else to say to you read my feedback, you will see that I dont do business in this way but there is absolutly nothing I can do about this.
kindest regards
Peter

- bramleytrader

I want the landy, but am new to the whole 'Ebay' thing

bertie_bas205 · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject:

He should have stated he was selling it on someone elses behalf......

Looks like it went too cheap and now theres some serious back paddleing going on.....

Don't really know what you can do except report it to ebay and give him bad feedback.......

Bertie.

Bala Boater · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:18 pm Post subject:

I read through some of the ebay rules, and came up with this responce.

Im very sorry peter,

But under the rules of ebay, you have a contract of sale with me.

Im very sorry for the hassel this may involve for you, but i have the cash to buy this vehicle and fully intend to collect it this week.

Feel free to contact me with a time and date for collection

I understand that you were selling this for a 3rd party, but i really want this vehicle, and when you sell something on ebay you enter in to legaly binding contract, from which you carnt back out after the end of the auction.

I look forward to your responce, I can come over most days this week.

will see what he says

bertie_bas205 · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:17 pm Post subject:

To the point........

Hope ye get it....

B.

Bala Boater · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:19 pm Post subject:

I dont like to be messed about!

He has replyed with:

Its no Hasstle for me.
65 Winklebury center
winklebury way, Basingstoke, RG23 8BU.
His name is Peter Warwick I dont know what sort of reception you will get but good luck mate.
regards peter.

Should be fun, dont fancy making a 8 hour round trip from nothing though

bigbadtonka · Just got MTs Joined: 17 May 2004 Odometer: 492

good luck, i hope you get the LR. i know nothing about the rules on your purchase but a good 90 for 1k is worth fighting for. If he plays silly b*gg*ers vist a lawyer, some will give you a quick consultation for free. I did this once about a builder and learnt so much in 10 mins, I bet for a small fee a very good letter could be posted.

bertie_bas205 · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject:

I'd contact the owner of said 90 and let him know of your intensions.....

Bertie.

. · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject:

bertie_bas205 · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:42 pm Post subject:

judderman3000 · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject:

Id let the fellow who owns it know exactly whats happened that he is under contract or so much his friend is, and go from there...

Either the seller is gonna have to stump up the extra dollar to secure the rover for you or face possible fraud charge if you want to take it that far.

nothing being reasonable cant resolve i shouldnt imagine, id take a couple of big lads down with me for good measure though... not cos thats how i do business but you dont know how others do

Damian · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject:

I wish you all the best... but I suspect you won't get anywhere. The owner will say you have no right to take his 90 because 'he' didn't sell it and never entered into an e-bay contract. The seller will just blame the owner.

judderman3000 · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject:

i do agree with damian actually but theres no harm in trying if you ask me

J. · Guest

two other landies he's sold through ebay .

link1

link 2

1 quote being 'Here I have for sale a 110 County station Wagon, this was taken recently in part exchange'

All the photos taken in one yard probably his, I'd say he's a dealer who didn't get the money he was after . you should remind him the deal was with him not his neighbours son and is a legally binding contract.

Bala Boater · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:25 pm Post subject:

Will keep you updated, I may just drive down there and sort face to face...

des332 · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject:

one thing i have learnt is never ever sell something on ebay for a friend.

Bala Boater · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:38 pm Post subject:

Drift · Guest

Many people on ebay deal in cars on the side, a hint that you have read his feedback and sales and you may need to talk to the VAT man may just sway it in your favour Wink

They dont like unwanted attention ebay car dealers

Bala Boater · Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:46 pm Post subject:

I have sent him this.

Will see what happens

hi peter.

Sorry to keep messaging you, but having read through you ebay history, it looks like you deal in cars on the side quite regualy

(things like 'We may be able to Deliver this Vehicle to your door so please email me your post code for a sensible quote.' and that you prefer cash)

You also sold a landy 110 that you said you took in part ex

These things give me the feeling that you may have just have not quite got what you wanted for the truck so would rather not sell it.

If you want I can be there wendsday with cash as asked.

Sorry if I have got this totaly wrong, and please dont take offence, but I need this vehicle.

Please call me on monday on 07717 500662

g1oves · Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:24 am Post subject:

good luck mate !!!!!! i really hope you get it, but i would go earlier than wednesday while the deal is still fresh, it gives him less time to think over it and come up with another bulls**t story !!!

AndyH aka Mad4x4 · Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:20 am Post subject:

I'd make sure you take a big burley Mate with you "Just in Case" he gets grumpy.....

Speak to EBAY - They are the "seller" and have a responsibility. But I bet they will take the attitude of oh well we will cancel the SALE..... rather than cause trouble.

If you have not yet paid any money then you haven;t lost. But stick to your guns...... Goto the PAPERS / TV etc.

STOP -

Just noticed his name on Ebay "XXXXXXX trader's" -- Screams trader to Me contact TRADING STANDARDS and the VAT MAN.

Bala Boater · Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:54 am Post subject:

Chris™ · Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:58 am Post subject:

I read somewhere that on most of eBay, a contract is entered into by the seller etc etc so he must sell it to the highest bidder. However, it also said that this doesn't apply to the eBay motors section and that it was designed as a medium to bring a buyer and seller together. I'm not sure whether that's true or not, but I have a feeling it is.

Good luck though, I hope you manage to get him to come up with the goods.

k4 · Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:08 am Post subject:

pay for it with paypal (your money is safe )and go collect it if he wont let you have it report it stolen ,then the police will deal with it for you

scotty wong · Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:47 am Post subject:

i would get there sooner than latter! he's a dealer theres no doubt so it may get"sold" before you get there to try and get out of it.remember the vat man bit its usually a winner,and point out you missed a couple of others while bidding on his.

also check it over when you get there some people dont like loosing and tamper with things.

scotty

RichardD · Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:28 pm Post subject:

OK. An 8 hour round trip for a pile of hassle? Is it really worth it especially as the car may be not what you think once you get there.

Additionally DO NOT SEND HIM ANY MONEY! If you think you've got a bit of hassle now imagine what getting anything back from Paypal will be like as you knew he was a chancer BEFORE you sent a payment.

Neg feedback and walk away with all you cash in your pocket.

bigt · Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:35 pm Post subject:

DO NOT part with any money......he does not want to sell it to you for the price agreed.

Report to ebay, leave appropriate feedback.........its a buyers market out there

. · Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:51 pm Post subject:

His ad states very clearly:

paul_humphreys · Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:59 pm Post subject:

Also bid on every thing he list and do not pay Wink

Paul

loopyscrew · Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:03 pm Post subject:

For the original poster. Try this link. Just out of curiosity, see if the same surname and address comes up?

http://search.ebay.co.uk/ws/search/AdvSearch?so...ype=9#ContactInfo

Bala Boater · Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:58 am Post subject:

thanks for all the help guys, on the offchance I went down to the auctions last night and baged a 2000 reg navara with 7k on the clock for £900!!!!

Its mint.

Apparently no one managed to get there cus of the snow.....

Thanks again for all the help and advice