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naughtyboy
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:05 pm    Post subject: carrying fuel Reply with quote

am planning a trip in a few years route to be finalised but off to out of way places.
what i need to know is would i better off fiiting one of the auxillary tanks from safari equip rather than carrying jerry cans?
have a couple of stories of people being stopped for having cans on roof or stopped from filling them at petrol stations.
it would also keep the weight low down so in theory safer?

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leeds
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No simple answer really. Depends on your vehicle and where you are going as you might need both.

For instance if you are going to Scandinavia and/or Eastern Europe in a 110 then all you would need is one 20 litre metal jerry can and the standard 80(?) litre main tank. If you are going into the Australian outback you will need both the auxilary tank and at least two 20 litre jerry cans as it can be up to 600+ miles between fuel stops.

Do not get plastic fuel containers as IMO they are not up to the wear and tear of long overland trips. Metal jerry cans are better for changes in atomospheric pressure.

Do NOT carry jerry cans on roof racks. Keep them low down. Personally I do not like roof racks as most are vastly overloaded.

If you get an auxillary tank from WVA Holdings/Safari Quip get them to double bottom it as it is not easy to get an after market tank guard

HTH

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only real advantages with Jerry cans is that they are cheap and the weight can be distributed more easily, plus you can unload the weight should you get stuck. But they are also stolen more easily and if you DO buy the cheap ones you need to fit extra fuel filters, its amazing how much crap they can accumulate.

Never, ever, ever get plastic cans for fuel, a quick electrostatic spark it all it takes to put you away!

If you are planning a long trip see if you can find a way of carrying the extra fuel in proper auxillary fuel tanks slung as low as possible on the truck. Don't be afraid to price up a custom tank, they might even be cheaper than buying an off-the-shelf unit.

Something else to consider is getting each fuel tank fitted with its own fuel pump, that way if one should fail you still have a working pump on the other tank to get you back to civilisation.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon@Difflock wrote:


Never, ever, ever get plastic cans for fuel, a quick electrostatic spark it all it takes to put you away!

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Plastic jerry cans have something in the plastic to stop this happening.

IMO you are better off with aftermarket aux tanks fitted low to improve the centre of gravity.
Petrol in jerry cans carried on roof racks or inside the cabin is a death trap in an accident.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I went over to Ireland on the ferry security inspected my vehicle and asked if I was carrying any fuels. They weren't going to let me, even if it was in approved containers.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We fitted a larger main tank and carried jerry's, if you pick up some dodgy fuel it's easier to empty some jerry cans than an aux tank. A guy we travelled with for a while had trouble with his aux tank, it picked up a pinhole leak and the transfer pump to the main tank played silly buggers and stopped working.

As the others have said it depends where you're planning on going and what vehicle you are using.

I'd also reccomend the water blocking filter funnel that Difflock sells or at least used to anyway.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have got 2 jerry cans in a foley side locker and on the other side locker i have a gas bottle.
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leeds
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Safari/WVH holdings auxillary tank for Defenders is a wing tank and gravity feeds into the main tank so no problem with pumps there.

Under chassis tanks might require fuel pumps but I have no experience of them.

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uk_vette
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like this,
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem...item=110329882113
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Fitted under my 'cruiser where the spare wheel is some times fitted (Mine is on the back door)
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Protected with a 1mm sheet of plate.
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I would stay away from any cross connections to the main tank, and simply use a submersible pump, to do the fuel transfer from aux to main tank.

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DavidLovejoy
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely set of replies there

The big question no one asked is what does Naughtyboy drive!

Aux tanks on a 110. 'Cruiser or Patrol are a doddle, not so easy on a 90 or even a 101. But WVA and others make tanks to fit most or you can get one made up.

If you are taking a pick up truck you could do a 'Chris Scott' and just chuck a drum in the back and ratchet it down.

If you have a 110 then your cheapest option is to fit a preTD5 90 tank under the drivers seat. Move your batteries and LR still do a long range tank for the passenger side - you've now got the best part of 40 gallons of fuel and all the pipe work is available form LR too! 40 gallons at an average of 20mpg is more than enough for all but the empty quarter.

What do I do? After years of pratting about with different things I went back to Jerrycans! 6 of them fit nicely behind the bulkhead and give me (with tank) 42 gallons of fuel which equals about 850miles . Easy to fill, easy to empty (and yes I do still use an earth strap in sand), easy to move to another vehicle if it all goes FUBAR and cheapif I have to leave them behind
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