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V8 + SJ413 = Little Toe
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Little Toe
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: V8 + SJ413 = Little Toe Reply with quote

Well, I'm not giving up that easily Laughing Lets start again Twisted Evil
Anyone got any questions about my truck, have alook at my website first www.little-toe.com
If you ain't got anything nice to say, then go to another forum Laughing

So where were we, oh, yes...

Lacking any kind of facilities, trying to do a V8 transplant into a zuke on a narrow side street is not a realistic proposition. Just imagine getting out your grinder and welder on the street when the local primary school gate is 5 yards away!

Anyway, having met up with Tony (aka Suzota), he has very kindly offered his workshop and expertise in shoe horning my Rover V8 3.5L engine, auto box and Hi-Lux t-case into Little Toe.

And before you ask, this is being done on joint basis, with me travelling down to his workshop at the weekends to lend a hand. I'm no lame duck with a welder or an angle grinder, plus Tony is doing this as a commercial venture, as it's his workshop and he has to make living out it.

So, last weekend, Tony came up to collect Little Toe on his trailer and take it down to his workshop. During this week he'll rip out the old 1324cc zuki engine, ready for me to come down and give him hand doing a trial fitting of the new V8 engine.

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Little Toe
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully tomorrow, there'll be some pics of the old engine coming out.
If anyone wants a 5000 mile 1325cc zuke engine, 5 speed gearbox, 410 t-case and a Trail Tough King Kong t-case, let me know. I'll post a ad later with pics etc.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What axles do you run, will they be up to the V8



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Little Toe
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tim - Laughing

If the Land Cruiser axles can't cope with the power, then I'll eat my hat !

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim Pink wrote:
What axles do you run, will they be up to the V8

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There's alway's one Laughing

Good to see you getting on with it shaun, are you still going lwb or you changed your mind.
I dont think the standard axles will be up to it (ducks to aviod spanner flying towards my head)Laughing

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Little Toe
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richie, it was an Australian spanner, watch out it doesn't come round and hit you in the back of the head Laughing
And in answer to your question, nope, keeping the SWB chassis as is.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



v8 engine



the strip down starts.




out comes the old engine




a bit empty in there at the mo.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twin su...... do hope youv read the write up on the beloved su....




'ducks under flying spanners'

jokes aside good luck itll be a rightful add on to a brilliant truck
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daaaymn that is going to be awesome Very Happy Nice to see you back here as well Shaun!

And Tony... how long did it take you to get that engine out??

Thanks guys, I feel suitably inspired! I'm going out to work on the zuk some more Very Happy

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Little Toe
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Adam - joking aside, got a link to the SU info? - I've never had an SU engined motor before, always been a Webber man myself!
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Little Toe
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Chris,
Glad this project has inspired you to get on with your truck!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



that's it.
everything is out.

next step is to offer up the v8 and see how its going to fit.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

V8??? Good on ye, makes a pleasent change from the norm........



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well he wont let me fit the spare v12 i have. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

suzota wrote:
well he wont let me fit the spare v12 i have. Sad


lol Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaun
Glad to see that after all the cr*p you still have your sense of humour!

This is a conversion I have often thought about as I am a bit of a V8 fan myself (I used to run a 230hp V8 powered 110) Best of luck

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Tony hasn't mentioned above is that it took him an hour to under th propshaft bolts. Seems they were a little bit tight Embarassed
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LITTLE BIT TIGHT

LITTLE BIT TIGHT


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim,
I've always got a sense of humour, just appears that some others don't Laughing

Maybe you'll consider doing the V8 conversion after Tony and I have done Little Toe ?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont think it will fit...
the manifold is on the wrong side Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's alright, it's got a manifold on the other side Laughing
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sorted then Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaun
Rover engine is too heavy for what it gives out for what I do. When I get the suspension right I will consider a redtop, I have a brand new Carlton gearbox ready for the conversion.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

glad to see u getting on well with it u will have to cut some of the tunnel out four the botem of the gear box to fit in how do i know u may ask because i offard my v8 and auto box up to my sj today will be in tommro will post some pics if u wont mate lol we will have a right pair when done
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Justin,
Yep, any pics will be helpful - this is all uncharted waters!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good luck shaun looking forward to seeing/hearing the process
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Danny,
It's not luck we need, just a bigger hammer Laughing

I don't suppose you know if the rear Land Cruiser diff will fit into Hi-Lux rear axle?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rhino ray has fitted a rover v8 in a sj chassis he clames its a verry good mod but the torque of the v8 twists the sj chassis. his words not mine
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shaun i do know and its a yes because that diff is from a d4d hilux i just so happen to know where there is a disk brake rear axle with centre diff and the correct shape for a diff locked diff to bolt into. i will see if he wants to sell the rest of the axle as he only needs the diff.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver zuk.
I don't think I'll have a problem with the engine twisting the chassis, as the exo-cage I've got is welded to the chassis in ten places. Think of it more as a space frame chassis, than the original ladder chassis which has zero torsional rigidity.

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