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mrcheese Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: Electric Citroen Berlingo
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I ended up behind one of these yesterday at a set of traffic lights in Reading. I have to say that it seemed to go quite well. When the lights went green it was quite swift and reached the 40mph limit of the road in quite a respectable time.
I don't know how hard it was trying, but the auto 300Tdi Disco I was driving was caught out a bit.
I wouldn't mind giving one a test drive to see what they are like.
Paul.
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:) Mud Obsessed
Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Odometer: 4337 Location: Norfolk
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:28 pm Post subject:
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You could have a go in mine except for the small matter that the batteries are dead and it is in pieces. I was quite impressed with the performance too, considering it is an 15kW motor (continuous) with a peak overload output of 28kW (that's only 37bhp) - but the important bit is how it delivers the power.
The standard Ni-Cd batteries give it a range of 45 miles, but with a set of Lithium-polymer you could have 120mile+.
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Jap Si Guest
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject:
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How many units of electricity does it take to charge the batteries?
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Nathaniel Difflock Royalty
Joined: 13 May 2003 Odometer: 17901 Location: North, North Yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Electric Citroen Berlingo
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mrcheese wrote: | I don't know how hard it was trying, but the auto 300Tdi Disco I was driving was caught out a bit. |
I've seen Hedgehogs catch out Automatic Disco's off the line!
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:) Mud Obsessed
Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Odometer: 4337 Location: Norfolk
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Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject:
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Jap Si wrote: | How many units of electricity does it take to charge the batteries? |
Simple answer:
About 25 units for a full charge.
Equivalent to £2.50 for 45 miles, but much less if you recharge overnight on "economy-7", something like £1.00 for 45miles.
Discussion:
Ni-Cd is very poor in terms of charge/discharge energy transfer, known as coulomb efficiency. They only give back about 66% of the amp-hours you charge them with. In comparison Lithium batteries can exceed 99% coulomb efficiency. When my vehicle gets its new batteries and battery management system it will need something like 33 units of electricity (£3.30 standard rate or ~£1.30 night-time rate) to do 100 miles.
Don't ask how much the batteries are.
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Rossko Articulating
Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Odometer: 757
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:09 am Post subject:
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wrote: | Don't ask how much the batteries are.
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You'll be paying for the disposal of the old units too, included in that
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:) Mud Obsessed
Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Odometer: 4337 Location: Norfolk
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:42 am Post subject:
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Rossko wrote: | wrote: | Don't ask how much the batteries are.
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You'll be paying for the disposal of the old units too, included in that |
Not explicitly. The technology is so new that I'm having to import my own cells and therefore taking on the disposal costs too.
As it happens the batteries last a long time and although we don't yet have proper recycling facilities for Li-ion, the time will come. I expect that with the price of raw materials likely to stay high, even dead batteries will have value, just like scrap cars are now worth a few hundred simply for the metal.
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uk_vette Just got MTs
Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Odometer: 177 Location: Warrington, Cheshire
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: Electric Citroen Berlingo
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Nathaniel wrote: | mrcheese wrote: | I don't know how hard it was trying, but the auto 300Tdi Disco I was driving was caught out a bit. |
I've seen Hedgehogs catch out Automatic Disco's off the line! |
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