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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: JIMNY TURBO Reply with quote

i was askin one of my local tuning garages 2day wot could i do to get a bit more poke out of my engine, apart from remappin, exhaust, etc usual stuff. he mentioned trying to find a turbo kit which would be good, its a 1300 16v has nebodee heard of nebodee doin this or does nebodee know of ne company supplyin em, he said they probably be from america, nebodee got ne ideas or info, much abliged.
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like a great idea but how much extra could the standard lump take?

surely it would be better to dump a bigger lump in there?

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on which engine you have remember that the G13BB engine in the Jimny is a just a differently tuned G13BB engine from a Suzuki Swift.

Therefore if you have this engine the tuning bits produced for the Swift should fit.

However be aware that Swift tuning mods are designed to improve the performance at high revs (pocket rocket!) whilst off-road you need performance at low revs.

For example see http://suzukird.com/

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The kit here http://suzukird1.netfirms.com/62pro/catalog/pro...mp;products_id=79
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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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180 HP we have seen when installing on a stock car with high mileage


whooosh...pst.... BANG!

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not see what our friends in Europe and the States are doing..

Instead of buying tuning kits/ turbos etc..

Why not look at engine options..

Mazda RX7

VW diesel

For example..

or a Vit 1600 16v.. Install kit from www.dgtuning.com for 435.60 euro's

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diesel Destroyer wrote:

or a Vit 1600 16v.. Install kit from www.dgtuning.com for 435.60 euro's


Is that a Vit engine or a GV/Baleno engine? It has the distributorless ignition system and the air intake at the front. I'm not trying to be pedantic but I have a 99' Baleno engine and the EFI and ignition look to be pretty much identical to an O2 Jimny - looks like it would drop straight in with no wiring changes, just unplug the Jimny ECU and plug in the Baleno ECU (and immobiliser!).

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diesel Destroyer wrote:
Why not see what our friends in Europe and the States are doing..

Instead of buying tuning kits/ turbos etc..

Why not look at engine options..

Mazda RX7

VW diesel

For example..

or a Vit 1600 16v.. Install kit from www.dgtuning.com for 435.60 euro's


that is a jimny 16v engine, same as wots in mine now.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rx7 rotary engine sounds cool
i believe there quite torquey to

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a 1.6 Baleno engine. Like I said before, it looks very much the same setup as a Jimny.



Has anyone got a pic of the water hoses at the back of the cylinder head. I need to adapt the Baleno engine to RWD and the Jimny bits might do the job

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhinoman

I assume you mean pictures of a Jimny engine.

Its very difficult to take pictures with the engine in as the wiring gets in the way.







If you want to come and have a look, let me know

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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't really see from those pics. The Baleno has a bit on the back with the pipes coming out. Being FWD the heater pipes come out at 90 degs and the main outlet comes out straight which isn't ideal. I was hoping that the GV or Jimny would have a different fitting.
Your engine looks different Martin
Cheers
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "bit on the back with the pipes coming out" is another large pipe - which just pulls out and swaps if its owt like the 16v vit engine
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a Jimny with the G13BB and not the later M13A then find a G16B bottom end and swap it over. The heads are the same and the injectors have the same flow capacity plus you end up with all the correct piping and coil pack ignition. You don't need to swap looms etc. and there is only minor work adapting the 1.6 to fit like other 1.3 to 1.6 conversions. The Jimny ECM will cope but it would be better if you added a piggy back controller/interceptor to optimise the fuelling and ignition. The other plus is it will basically look Factory. This is probably the easiest and best value swap that will also give you more power and torque.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought Jimny's were 1300 16v..

Goes to show how little Iknow Embarassed

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

me too allan. thought they were all 1.3 16v


or should that be

me 2 m8. i fought dey wuz all 16 valv

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bazwidajimny wrote:
that is a jimny 16v engine, same as wots in mine now.


Apparently not...

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diesel Destroyer wrote:
bazwidajimny wrote:
that is a jimny 16v engine, same as wots in mine now.


Apparently not...

ive only seen a 1.3 16v jimny Confused
but outside the uk you can get the diesel jimnys Smile
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both the G13BB and the M13A are 16v.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Up to the year 2000 they were fitted with the G13B SOHC MPI engine, after 2000 they were fitted with the M13A DOHC MPI engine.

Since 2005 they are fitted with the VVT engine (M13AA)

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mlines wrote:
Up to the year 2000 they were fitted with the G13B SOHC MPI engine


Not quite, they were fitted with the G13BB. The G13B is the 1.3 16v dohc fitted to the Swift GTi.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj-zuki

Yep sorry I should have said G13BB

Basically the early Jimnys were fitted with the SOHC engine.




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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Guys. Mlines got in touch with me on Jimny.se as I am putting a G16B Baleno engine into my G13BB Jimbob over the bank holiday weekend.
Hopefully then I can answer the questions about the water pipes on the back of the block as I will have both engines on the floor side by side.

I do know you need to re drill the lower engine - gearbox bolt holes on the engine block as they're are different (closer together), or get an adapter plate (eblag £40 including postage).

You need the skinny bosch starter. You may have one already on your Jimny, but it's always worth a check to see.

Also I have been informed that you need to re drill one engine mount, but again till the engines are out on the deck and I measure the distance between centres with the engine mounts in place on the G16B I cannot confirm. To be honest I am hoping to get away with this for the more standard than standard look. Wink

@rhinoman:
The Baleno lump you have there... Is the sump pot at the back or front? Need to know whether I need to swap sumps and that'll mean ordering a sump gasket set. My engine is not being delivered till next weds - thursday and just want to be prepared.

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

simon_doc wrote:

The Baleno lump you have there... Is the sump pot at the back or front? Need to know whether I need to swap sumps and that'll mean ordering a sump gasket set.
Simon


I can't remember which end the sump is, I'll have a look tomorrow. There is no gasket though, just sealant.

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh ok no sump gasket... See total newbie to Zuki engineering! Laughing
Must admit I am used to old skool cooking with fords and vauxhall / opel. Did do all my own work on my old Pajero and the one that Mrs. doc has but never needed anything as serious as an engine swap.
Gasket goo I have a-plenty of, actually there's 2 tubes of Hylomar in the glove box of the Zuki ready for any small jobs that may require it. Wink
Thanks for you info rhinoman. Be good to know if I need to change the sump over.

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sump and oil pickup
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baleno sump is at the front so you will have to change the sump and pick up.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Rhinoman again and CJ_Zuki. Your info is really appreciated. So changing the sump and pipe it is then. No biggie another 10 mins work.

rhinoman wrote:
I can't really see from those pics. The Baleno has a bit on the back with the pipes coming out. Being FWD the heater pipes come out at 90 degs and the main outlet comes out straight which isn't ideal. I was hoping that the GV or Jimny would have a different fitting.
Your engine looks different Martin
Cheers
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To answer you question about the pipes on the back of the block.. This is a rather poor phone cam piccy Embarassed of the back of the G13BB between the ignition sensor on the back of the cam and to top of the bellhousing.
As you can see there are no pipes coming out from there.
The ones for the heater come out from the inlet manifold and, I believe, from the water pump.
Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bit different to the Baleno then:



Yours looks like it might be similar to a 16V Vit. The Baleno has one bolt on bit that has a heater hose and a sensor and another bit that has the water outlet. You should be able to swap your bits over.
I've no idea if the oil pick up pipe will be a straight swap, the Sammy has a smaller pipe that the 1.6 which needs to be modded, the fixing bracket needs to be modded too.

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhinoman,
Yes I guess it is the same as a 16v vit.
That's the thermostat housing and radiator top pipe connection on the back end of the block. There mine has a blanking plate and the top pipe is on the front of the inlet manifold, so I guess I am changing the inlet manifold as well then. Pity was hoping to use that.
Ah well never mind.
Again many thanks for your help in getting this all clear in my mind.

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

simon_doc wrote:
Rhinoman,
Yes I guess it is the same as a 16v vit.
That's the thermostat housing and radiator top pipe connection on the back end of the block. There mine has a blanking plate and the top pipe is on the front of the inlet manifold, so I guess I am changing the inlet manifold as well then. Pity was hoping to use that.
Ah well never mind.
Again many thanks for your help in getting this all clear in my mind.

Simon


You will want to use the Jimny intake manifold with the Baleno engine and make everyone else who has done a Baleno engine conversion envy you with how much better it makes it. It resolves the cooling pipe plumbing issues. It is the simple solution that more people should be aware of if they can get hold of the Jimny intake.
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