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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: 404 Diesel Reply with quote

Hi, have been playing with Land Rovers for years but now bought a proper off roader, a mog 404! the petrol engine is seized solid and I would like to go for a diesel, I have seen a German company selling a expensive bellhousing to fit a 5cyl merc engine. What other diesel engines have been fitted to 404's??
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The Original Donk
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1963 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 404 Doka

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the OM613 merc engine fits straight in, also the W123 engine, ask dave about a nissan conversion
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minimog
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

theres a web site that goes into great detail about the fitting of any merc engine and acording to that site the 613 engine still requires the bellhousing due to the placement of the starter and the difference in clutches
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

according to straight forward dood the merc g wagon engine fits in , but cab would stiilll need modding
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dirtydiesel
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 2.8 petrol that'll bolt straight in.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replys gents, I'm happy to do mods to the cab to make and an engine fit but would like one that bolts up to the standard bellhousing. Which vehicle did you get the 2.8 engine from?
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The Original Donk
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1963 Mercedes-Benz Unimog 404 Doka

PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen in close up Tims (straightforward) conversion, and it looks a straight swap, with no changing of the bellhousing, just cut away into the drivers footwell and new engine doghouse covers.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can confirm the problem with the 613 engine. Everything looks like it fits but the starter motor only just engages with the flywheel with the tips of the gear teeth.

My first Mog was a 404 already converted. It went through several starter motors before we realised what the problem was.

The other problem was that the diesel washed all the petrol "varnish" off the insides of the fuel tanks and clogged the fuel filter reguarly for the first 2000 miles.

Other than that it was a good conversion averaging 20 mpg.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, so looks like the 613 would be a good option if the started motor problem could be overcome. Which type of merc is the 613 fitted to, is that a 4 or 5 cyl engine
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The Original Donk
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 613 is fitted to G wagens amongst others

also available in turbo and non turbo


it is 5 cylinder

have a look here http://www.rockymountainmoggers.com/zebra03enginetranny.html
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