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DISCO FOR DISABLED. ADVICE NEEDED.

 
 
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w3526602
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:10 am    Post subject: DISCO FOR DISABLED. ADVICE NEEDED. Reply with quote

Hi,

SWMBO (age 7Cool is scheduled for a pair of new knees, which will drop her licence to AUTOMATIC ONLY for several months. She currently has a 12 month old Hyundai IX20, with 3000 miles under it's belt. She refuses to spend our pensions on replacing it with a new Tuscon automatic.

SWMBO is a non-smoking, very light drinking, clean licence, full NCD, senior-ish Civil Servant ... in a previous existence she was the Press Officer at DVLC. She has been disabled from 3 days old, due to a medic wrenching her right arm to where he thought it ought to be, destroying her shoulder, elbow and wrist.

I taught her to drive on Penang Island, in a Sunbeam Talbot 90, followed by a rusty Mini when we returned to UK. She had one professional lesson before passing her test in South London in the aforementioned rusty Mini, on January 1st 1971 (it snowed that morning)

For her 70th birthday, I gave her three laps round Silverstone in both a Ferrarri and an Aston Martin. She hit 120mph, and declared that she still wanted a Ferrari, but had found the Aston Martin to be cumbersome.

ANNO DOMINI is taking it's toll, and she is scheduled for a pair of titanium knees. DVLA have indicated that her driving licence will then be reduced to "Automatic Only" for several months. That suggests that her present car, a 2018 Hyundai IX20 (manual), with 3000 miles on the clock, will need to find a new home. Doh!

Further complications include the need for her car to have room for three strapping grandchildren, a wheelchair, and a JRT.

My 1959 Land Rover 109" had to move on, because it was too high for her to climb into, and it's replacement, a Suzuki Jimny is only slightly easier, and with a lot less space.

My question .... Land Rover Discovery! I owned one several years ago, but at that time did not need to consider it's ease of access. Discos come in AUTO format.

So, my question .... how high does one's bum need to be above sea-level to be able to get into a the driver's seat of a Disco without having to clamber?

Suggestions welcomed.

I am 5ft 10ins tall. She is 5ft 4ins. But we both have 29 inches of "inside leg".

602

PS... she would accept a SAAB 900i AUTO ... if I could find one. She wrote two such cars off in spectacular fashion. One was hit by an articulated tail lift on the M4 ... she phoned me, told me to write down the registration of the lorry she was chasing. The second time, her car started whille in reverse, and ran amok. It destroyed my Disco which was parked behind it, and the Transit van parked on the other side of the road.

PPS. Penang? I was in charge of vehicle servicing on an RAF SAM site (Bloodhounds) on RAAF Butterworth ... had to go to work by ferry. Google "33 SQUADRON BUTTERWORTH SATELITE VIEW".

PPPS. Two years on Penang Island ... and she still says I never take her anywhere. When my Campaign medal arrived in the post, I told her she had been living in a "war zone". Shocked The Ozzies were fighting in Viet Nan ... which wasn't very far away.[/i]

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Try http://www.bloodhoundmkii.org.uk/images/33/33_1.jpg for a picture of all my Bloodhounds.

602

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best go along and try how the Discovery is for getting in and out pre op with bad knees.


Not an answer, just a question from someone with only 1 leg, so only 1 foot and an Automatic only licence.
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What makes it OK to drive a few months using an accelerator and brake with one leg with a new artificial knee but not use the other leg with a new artificial knee to use a clutch?
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Mr Tyre
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem with Discos and a few others is how deep the frame/seatbox is that the seat sits on it's easily as deep as a 109 seatbox if not deeper still.Team Chaos's Disco had a specialist hoist for getting less able bodied people in an out of the front seat if thats a help.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What makes it OK to drive a few months using an accelerator and brake with one leg with a new artificial knee but not use the other leg with a new artificial knee to use a clutch?

Hi Scrum,

I'm guessing that most cars now have servo brakes, so no effort required to stop and go.

I've seen queries on the Land Rover Series 2 Forum about converting the clutch pedal to "servo". But they are usually from drivers with a knackered left knee, rather than a new knee.

I believe the Quacks will inform DVLA that you have a new knee, and DVLA will have developed a "policy".

Point of interest ... at one time your disability was spelled out on your licence. That changed after the Thalidimide (sp?) scandal, in the 1970s.

602

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too am 5'10" tall, though probably stand at 5'9" because I slouch.
Anyway, I have a 300tdi auto Disco which will be for sale in the next few weeks.
I'm not sure if this particular Disco would be for you as it has a 2"lift and some larger sized tyres, which makes it taller.
Basically the seats are almost as high my bum, the seats are leather which makes sliding in and out slightly easier! It also has rock sliders/sill protection which some shorter people use to climb in.
If you are interested in having a look when it's back on the road (currently SORNed), I have family close to MK so can take it down to you one weekend.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 6:13 am    Post subject: DISCO FOR DISABLED. ADVICE NEEDED. Reply with quote

Hi Gray,

Sorry for delay in replying, I don't visit here too often, nowadays, though I recently had a phone call from Ritul (who was driving up the M1 at the time, and seemed very impressed with the traffic).

I met Ritul on this forum some years ago, when he was asking for advice about his Land Rover S2 109", that peaked at 45mph. It eventually dawned on me that he lived in Mumbai. We been E-pals ever since. He was visiting UK to buy machine tools.

He solved the S2 problem by replacing it with a 110 estate.

Ritul drove the S2, flew a 5ft wingspan model Spitfire, followed Fred Basset when he was at boarding school, and went into the mountains looking for "rare breeds". I accused him of nicking my culture. But I let him off, when he explained that the rare breeds were TIGERS.

Ritul is a "JAIN" (Google ...very impressive), so I was circumspect in my discussions. I asked if he understood my "blonde" jokes, as they don't have blondes in Mumbai. He replied that one of the ladies in his circle of friends dyed her hair blonde, but when they went swimming, it was obvious she was not a real blonde. That was the end of my self-imposed censoreship. Very Happy

602

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All,

Just to keep you amused.

I have seen Barbara standing on the middle lane of the M4, traffic passing both sides, eyeball to eyeball with a police sergeant, fingers wagging in each other's faces. How did that end?

"Get your wife out of my sight, and I'll say no more about this!"

An offer too good to refuse.

602 (Who still wakes up screaming)

PS. I have also watched her drive a Triumph 2500TC over a 100ft cliff. I hadn't warned her about coasting downhill, when the car has servo brakes.

She was caught by a tree, about 10ft down.

The truck driver and I climbed down. The car was vertically sideways, with Barbara's bum in the passenger footwell, feet pointing upwards, on the driver's seat.

I said we'd grab a foot each and pull her up and out.

"Oh no you won't! I'm coming out head first!"[i]

Why did such a tough cookie choose me?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:28 pm    Post subject: DISCO FOR DISABLED. ADVICE NEEDED. Reply with quote

Hi,

I done a Google for .....

Land Rover Discovery Internal Dimensions I found a drawing with a few internal dimensions, but nothing useful.

However, I could see that the top of the front seat cushion was lower that the tops of the tyres.

Google say that Discovery tyres are a smidgen under 29" OD

SWMBO had her first proper run in my Suzuki Jimny today She had difficulty getting in, as the seats covering is not "slidy", and the "rock slider (?) meant she could not stand close enough, and her legs are reluctant to step up that high. Suzuki seat cushion is a smidgen over 29" from the ground.

602

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