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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:11 am    Post subject: 27 years. Reply with quote

time for the truth.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-36133445

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Real Truth

Question one
Do you agree with the following statement: On April 15 1989, 96 people died in the disaster as a result of crushing in the central pens of the Leppings Lane terrace, following the admission of a large number of supporters to the stadium through the exit gates.

The jury said: Yes

Question two
Was there any error or omission in police planning and preparation for the semi-final on April 15, 1989, which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed on the day of the match?

The jury said: Yes

Question three
Was there any error or omission in policing on the day of the match which caused or contributed to a dangerous situation developing at the Leppings Lane turnstiles?

The jury said: Yes.

“Police response to the increasing crowds at Leppings Lane was slow and uncoordinated. The road closure and sweep of fans exacerbated the situation.”

They said no filter cordons were used, no contingency plans made and attempts to close perimeter gates were too late.

Question four
Was there any error or omission by commanding officers which caused or contributed to the crush on the terrace?

The jury said: Yes

“Commanding officers should have ordered the closure of the central tunnel before the opening of gate C was requested as pens three and four were full.”

They said commanding officers should have asked for figures and failed to recognise pens were at capacity.

Question five
When the order was given to open the exit gates at the Leppings Lane end of the stadium, was there any error or omission by the commanding officers in the control box which caused or contributed to the crush on the terrace?

The jury said: Yes.

“Commanding officers did not inform officers in the inner concourse prior to the opening of gate C.”

They said they failed to consider where fans would go and to consider the closure of the tunnel.

Question six
Are you satisfied, so that you are sure, that those who died in the disaster were unlawfully killed?

The jury said: Yes.

Question seven
Was there any behaviour on the part of the football supporters which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation at the Leppings Lane turnstiles?”

The jury said: No.

They were asked if behaviour may have caused or contributed. They answered no.


Question eight
Were there any features of the design, construction and layout of the stadium which you consider were dangerous or defective and which caused or contributed to the disaster?

The jury said: Yes

“The design and layout of the crush barriers in pen three and four were not fully compliant with the Green Guide”.

They said the lack of dedicated turnstiles meant capacities could not be monitored and there were too few turnstiles. Signage to the side pens was inadequate.

Question nine
Was there any error or omission in the safety certification and oversight of Hillsborough Stadium that caused or contributed to the disaster?

The jury said: Yes

They said the safety certificate was never amended to reflect changes at the Leppings Lane end. The capacity figures were incorrectly calculated and the safety certificate had not been reissued since 1986.

Question 10
Was there any error or omission by Sheffield Wednesday and its staff in the management of the stadium and/or preparation for the semi-final match on April 15, 1989, which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed on the day of the match?

The jury said: Yes

The jury said: “The club did not approve the plans for dedicated turnstiles to each pen.”

The club did not agree contingency plans with police and there was inaccurate information on the tickets.

Question 11
Was there any error or omission by Sheffield Wednesday and its staff on April 15, 1989, which caused or contributed to the dangerous situation that developed at the Leppings Lane turnstiles and in the west terrace?

The jury said: No

They were asked if any error or omission MAY have contributed or caused the dangerous situation.

The jury said: Yes

“Club officials were aware of the huge numbers of fans still outside the Leppings Lane turnstiles at 2.40pm. They should have requested a delayed kick off at this point.

Question 12
Should Eastwood and Partners (structural engineers) have done more to detect and advise on any unsafe or unsatisfactory features of Hillsborough Stadium which caused or contributed to the disaster?

The jury said: Yes

“Eastwoods did not make their own calculations when they became consultants for Sheffield Wednesday FC.”

They said calculations were incorrect and Eastwoods failed to recalculate capacities and update the safety certificate after 1986.

They said Eastwoods failed to recognise the removal of crush barriers could create a dangerous situation.

Question 13
After the crush in the west terrace had begun to develop, was there any error or omission by the police which caused or contributed to the loss of lives in the disaster?

The jury said: Yes

They said the police delayed calling a major incident and there was a lack of communication, coordination and command and control.

Question 14
After the crush in the west terrace had begun to develop, was there any error or omission by the ambulance service (SYMAS) which caused or contributed to the loss of lives in the disaster?

The jury said: Yes

They said ambulance officers at the scene failed to ascertain the nature of the problem and the failure to call a major incident led to delays in responses to the emergency.

so for over 25 years, the south Yorkshire police force lied, smeared, concocted stories and tried to shift the blame onto 96 innocent victims of their incompetence.

i look forward to the prosecutions.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's what the fans and families have been saying all along.

Whilst this is now going to be the beginning of another painful process as the truth is picked over and dissected, I hope it it starts a process of closure for everyone involved.

It is needed and deserved.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

everyone is falling over themselves to apologise to the families.

maybe not lying in the first place was a better idea eh?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep.

Here's to justice being served.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 27, 2016 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and it starts....

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-n...onstable-11252024

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

** GED ** wrote:
everyone is falling over themselves to apologise to the families.

maybe not lying in the first place was a better idea eh?



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

erm......

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-n...e-police-11259529

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2016 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

** GED ** wrote:
erm......

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-n...e-police-11259529


I think he's referring to your use of the term "falling over themselves" at that point, given what the topic is based on in the first place.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2016 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that wasnt a reply to mr tyre mate.
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