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mr_e Just got MTs
Joined: 06 Apr 2006 Odometer: 412 Location: Kent
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:38 am Post subject: New Merc Surf wagon build
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Hi Guys,
Have sold the CruiseLexus and have started the Surf wagon (G wagon with truck cab'd Toyota surf body).
I've ben trawling the forums trying to find any info on the BMW 2.5/3.0 tds + manual gear box as I think this would be a good engine to swap in.
Anyone have any info on this engine with regard to electrics? or know of any one whos put one in a G? I know they put this engine in the RR P38 & SPAM's but I believe the engines were de-tuned for them. Bit of a shame to change the 3ltr 5cyl as its only done 40,000 mls so not evan run in but I would like better fuel ecconemy and the extra power is always welcome
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Mark.....
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aniesigh Articulating
Joined: 15 Jul 2009 Odometer: 795 Location: north devon
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:22 am Post subject:
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personally wouldn't go for a 2.5 tds, or at least from my experience of them in my old P38, basically it was gutless! think the 330d motors are a different game though they're up 200hp direction and oodles of torque whereas the 2.5 is something like 134hp and no pull from the bottom end!
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Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:05 pm Post subject:
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the only time I have used a 330d motor was in a 330d.
I could spin the wheels going into third......
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aniesigh Articulating
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mr_e Just got MTs
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:51 pm Post subject:
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Cheers for the advise, not an awful lot of decent RWD diesel stuff about with manual gearboxes for £1200 or less. Will keep looking on the usual sites as well as copart for a cat D or C.
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parrotveasey81 Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:55 am Post subject:
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kzt from a surf
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mr_e Just got MTs
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Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:51 pm Post subject:
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Thanks for the offer but if I were to go the V8 route again I'd go for another Lexus V8 as there just awesome.
Do you know what manual RWD gearbox would go on the back of the 1KZ? Don't want the transfer box as I want to run the Merc TFB.
Cheers Mark....
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parrotveasey81 Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:48 pm Post subject:
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mr_e wrote: | Thanks for the offer but if I were to go the V8 route again I'd go for another Lexus V8 as there just awesome.
Do you know what manual RWD gearbox would go on the back of the 1KZ? Don't want the transfer box as I want to run the Merc TFB.
Cheers Mark.... |
anything with the right bell housing/conversion
maybe a supra box may fit but not too sure on that
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parrotveasey81 Mud Obsessed
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mr_e Just got MTs
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:43 pm Post subject:
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Well I now have my engine & gearbox Picked up one of these
3ltr 150BHP Isuzu Grafter, only done 88k mls, best bit is the gearbox ratio's, with a mega low 1st and a 5th a wee bit higher than the G 5 speed, also has a transmission brake and a cable gear selector.
Can any one confirm weather sprinter rear discs will fit on the rear hubs of the 460G? as I want to junk the rear drum brakes.
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scotty wong Just got MTs
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:14 am Post subject:
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Good choice.i have a mate that use to run a few of them and the amount of sand etc that went in the back and it still pulled well up hill was amazing.seems to be a proper van engine not just a tuned car engine like the french stuff.
Will love to see this but will miss the nascar sound of skippy.
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mr_e Just got MTs
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:51 pm Post subject:
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I do hope so Sigh, it doesn't rev very high so I guess it gets up to speed with sheer grunt? The G wagon diffs are 20% higher ratio so should do 70mph ish @ 2000 revs?
Cheers Scotty, will have to make a recording of Skippy and play it through some big ass speakers LOL.
Went down the yard today to see what I'd bought, as I haven't seen the Grafter until today.
Engine looks clean for a 10year old work horse!!!
G wagon chassis is very solid and makes a lovely blank canvas.
Should be a interesting winter project
Mark....
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Neilios Winch Assistant
Joined: 19 Mar 2012 Odometer: 57 Location: North East
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:45 am Post subject:
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Any progress on this? Nice to see a different approach.
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mr_e Just got MTs
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2013 9:09 pm Post subject:
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The Isuzu engine is now in the chassis on its new mounts and a modified drive shaft to the T'box is done. Going to start the truck cab tomorrow, so will try to get some more pic's
Mark.....
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Neilios Winch Assistant
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:40 pm Post subject:
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look forward to it, just doing my Disco at the moment but fancy a G Wagon next, if space would allow a Mog!!
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hairyguy4 Just got MTs
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:40 pm Post subject:
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this should be a good build :thumbsup: i've had 2 g wagons both 460 2.8s in the past, bloody solid motors, had a drunk bloke smash into it total his van and the wagon was unscathed
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hairyguy4 Just got MTs
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:19 pm Post subject:
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hows this build coming along? any more progress
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mr_e Just got MTs
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:22 pm Post subject:
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Have been busy moving into a new workshop so haven't done much, as it stands...... The engine is in the chassis on its new mounts, the G'Box to T'Box propshaft is done and fitted and the Surf has been cut up ready to stitch together. Hope to get back on with it this weekend. Need a drivers door if anyone knows of a 2nd gen being broken pref in kent
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mr_e Just got MTs
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:46 pm Post subject:
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Got a bit more done, The back end has been done (need to get some more pic's as these are about 8 months old) Rear axle has been stripped and re-built with disk brake conversion, new bearings & bushes, also fitted a watts linkage. Propshafts converted to LR units for ease of maintenance.
All converted to LHD (including wipers). Next jub is to remove and strip/rebuild front axle with RCV H'duty CV's.
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Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:31 pm Post subject:
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looking good but you really should have put the grafter COE cab and back on the g wagon chassis...
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mr_e Just got MTs
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Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 6:59 pm Post subject:
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I did contemplate doing that, but the lure of the Toyota truck cab was to much to resist.
Mark....
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