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winchman Mud Obsessed
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Odometer: 2757 Location: Village Near St.Helens Merseyside
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:58 am Post subject: Buying another 4x4
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As many of you will know I have been here a long time and had several vehicles, the longest was a Vit.
I sold up a few years ago due to the usual time and poverty that stops us all.
I am thinking of buying another 4x4, it will be used to teach my 15 year old to drive.
It must have power steering and ideally hard top
Budget would be less than £1000 but nearer £600, so what would you buy and why?
I also have to consider were to store it
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rob546454 Just got MTs
Joined: 17 Jan 2013 Odometer: 232 Location: Bradford
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 11:59 am Post subject:
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Frontera? Pretty cheap and not bad for rot. Quite tough too. zooks are cheap and simple to repair.
I would steer clear of anything thats going cheap thats usually a lot more because its probably knackered. Don't punch above your budget if you know what I mean.
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DD Mud Obsessed
Joined: 25 Sep 2003 Odometer: 9761 Location: Aberdeenshire
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:40 pm Post subject:
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A quick search on autotrader shows-up the most popular in that bracket as:
Toyota RAV4
LR Freeloader
Grand Vitara
Frontera
All depends on what you want to do with it otherwise I guess. With a limited budget I guess you want reliability and cheap parts together.......
Vitara then?
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Wallop Smithy Just got MTs
Joined: 01 Dec 2011 Odometer: 211 Location: Shropshire
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2014 8:13 pm Post subject:
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Insurance wise some jap 4x4's (on some models) are higher insurance brackets compared to say a frontera.
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winchman Mud Obsessed
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Odometer: 2757 Location: Village Near St.Helens Merseyside
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:57 am Post subject:
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I will try and get some quotes this week.
I fancy another Disco or vit really but don't want to be blinkered
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vtrax Off-Road Guru
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Odometer: 1058 Location: Cambs
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:18 am Post subject:
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If you're looking for something bigger & reliable - I'd recommend a Terrano.
Not particularly easy to mod, but built like a tank
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winchman Mud Obsessed
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Odometer: 2757 Location: Village Near St.Helens Merseyside
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:27 am Post subject:
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Only mod will be tyres
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
Joined: 18 Jun 2014 Odometer: 2039 Location: Scouser
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:22 am Post subject:
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buy something that runs on veg oil then.
current price for fresh is £12:50 for 20L
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RichardD Marshall
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Odometer: 22856 Location: State of Confusion
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:58 am Post subject:
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Is this to be a daily drive/road car for yourself? If your kid is only 15 it'll be 2 years before they'll on tarmac so the fuel costs are irrelevant.
Any small 4x4 going for £600 is likely to be one step away from the scrapyards/parts bin so bear in mind (as if I need to remind you) the cost of keeping it on the road if that's where its going to be used
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winchman Mud Obsessed
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Odometer: 2757 Location: Village Near St.Helens Merseyside
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 10:55 am Post subject:
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This will only be used for him to learn in and the odd pay and play
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RichardD Marshall
Joined: 13 Mar 2003 Odometer: 22856 Location: State of Confusion
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:09 am Post subject:
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In that case, if its not going on the road, then pretty much anything you can get for £600 that still runs and stops!
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winchman Mud Obsessed
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Odometer: 2757 Location: Village Near St.Helens Merseyside
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:56 am Post subject:
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Peoples thoughts on the following please and any issues I should know about?
Shogun?
Teranno
Maverick
I still feel a Vit as its so capable, but I miss my Disco and it would look better and plenty of bits.
I can insure a Disco for £175 Vit is £150, but I would have to mod them so what should I pay for a a second hand set of tyres Insa Turbo etc
I think the budget may get to £1000 if I can sell my caravan
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Xpajun Mud Obsessed
Joined: 22 Sep 2008 Odometer: 3245
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Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:15 pm Post subject:
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winchman wrote: | Peoples thoughts on the following please and any issues I should know about?
Shogun?
Teranno
Maverick
I still feel a Vit as its so capable, but I miss my Disco and it would look better and plenty of bits.
I can insure a Disco for £175 Vit is £150, but I would have to mod them so what should I pay for a a second hand set of tyres Insa Turbo etc
I think the budget may get to £1000 if I can sell my caravan |
Go for the Pajero rather than the Shogun year for year it won't be so rusty - mine is just showing surface rust at 20 years old - I've seen younger Shoguns rotted out
Again go for the Teranno over the Maverick - Ford put extras in on top of the Nissan stuff - immobilisation for a start - if it goes wrong Ford says it's a Nissan repair and Nissan tells you it's Ford responsibility Either way the teranno/maverick rots faster than a Landrover apparently.
Personally with what you've said you want it for I'd go for the Vit
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winchman Mud Obsessed
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Odometer: 2757 Location: Village Near St.Helens Merseyside
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 6:41 pm Post subject:
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The deed is done, thanks to Spannerman I now have a 300TDi Disco (Matilda)
Its nice to be back in an old Disco as I still miss my first
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rob546454 Just got MTs
Joined: 17 Jan 2013 Odometer: 232 Location: Bradford
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:30 am Post subject:
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As long as you are happy. Goodluck with it
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vtrax Off-Road Guru
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Odometer: 1058 Location: Cambs
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:26 am Post subject:
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Pheeeeew!
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winchman Mud Obsessed
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Odometer: 2757 Location: Village Near St.Helens Merseyside
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:38 am Post subject:
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** GED ** wrote: | buy something that runs on veg oil then.
current price for fresh is £12:50 for 20L |
So how much veg can I put in my 300TDi?
Who sells it for £12.50?
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
Joined: 18 Jun 2014 Odometer: 2039 Location: Scouser
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:36 am Post subject:
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300tdi?
look here and see if your engine says one tank or two.
http://www.biomotors.co.uk/CarsVansK.html#Landrover
costco has just put it up to 13 quid ish.
200tdi will eat veg all day, the 300 is a bit more delicate.
will you use fresh or waste?
how many miles will you do?
confused? you will be.....
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** GED ** Mud Obsessed
Joined: 18 Jun 2014 Odometer: 2039 Location: Scouser
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:43 am Post subject:
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just checked, its a twin tank conversion.
the fitted conversions run at about a grand...
or you and the lad can do it for about £70......
you need....
1 fuel tank. i use a 22L boat tank. cost me a tenner.
loads of fuel hose.
a heat exchanger, cost between £10 and £70 depending on type.
one or two changeover valves, depending on purge preferences.between£2.50 and £40 depending on type.
loads of jubilee clips.
and some veg oil......i may have a few litres somewhere in the shed.
about 1270 at the last count
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winchman Mud Obsessed
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Odometer: 2757 Location: Village Near St.Helens Merseyside
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Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:05 am Post subject:
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To be honest as I wont be doing many miles I will just stick a bit in once the weather warms up, just have to used diesel for now
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