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Car safety? Don't make me laugh

 
 
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RichardD
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:39 pm    Post subject: Car safety? Don't make me laugh Reply with quote

For the last 24 hours I have had to suffer driving a Ford Galaxy whilst my 110 was in for a repair and what a shockingly dangerous design of A pillar!

Having only driven LR products or older cars for the last 5 years I was shocked to discover that Ford, in their wisdom, have fitted such wide A pillars (I believe Renault have as well) that they have had to fit windows in them to pretend that you have not lost 75% or more vision to the front/side of the car.

I was driving to work along some country roads and coming to a corner I looked ahead and to the side and found my vision of the road completely blocked by this 2 piece A pillar arrangement. The same happened at lights where I couldn't see pedestrians crossing for about 1/4 of the way from the right hand side.

Who the **** saw fit to give a car like that 5 stars for safety? No wonder these cars are driven like morons - they can't see where they're going and possibly don't even realise that they can't see.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My sentiments precisely!!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed.

But don't worry - its useful to have cars like those on the roads as they are my crumple zone.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Share your concern.

But NCAP ratings are only concerned with impact and crash safety, unfortunately.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same with the wifes Focus and also the Berlingo vans at work.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:56 pm    Post subject: They not good on wet slipways either Reply with quote

Had to dive at midnight on one 5 metres underwater , when it slipped off a jetty . Body check Great dive though no resale value
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a Citroen van at work a few years ago with huge pillars, it was dreadful.
But the pillars were not the only things that were so bad that I believed it to be unsafe for me to drive, and within 3 weeks, with Unison fully supporting my view, I had a Transit as replacement and the company very quietly disposed of the large fleet of Citroens.

There are other engineering solutions to making a vehicle strong without resorting to blocking the drivers vision.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:20 pm    Post subject: Angle grinder to each corner Reply with quote

Lots of fleets vehicles sold as crap , cheap to people who don't drive them, but see the £ sign s
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You seem to be assuming drivers actually look out the window?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cynic-al wrote:
You seem to be assuming drivers actually look out the window?


I certainly used to think so!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim1064 wrote:
Share your concern.
But NCAP ratings are only concerned with impact and crash safety, unfortunately.


NCAP is the problem.
I find new vehicles to be particularly dangerous when pulling out onto roundabouts and on many right hand bends when you can't see what is coming or where you are going.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim1064 wrote:
Share your concern.

But NCAP ratings are only concerned with impact and crash safety, unfortunately.


So vehicles are designed to meet a flawed rating system for PR purposes rather than what is actually required. Sounds about right.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'd be surprised what you get used to, no matter what car I drive the rear view mirror completely blocks my view between about 11:30 and 10:00 (field of vision before someone makes the crack Laughing ). When I'm driving wagons I find all the mirrors on the O/S have a habit of hiding cars as your approaching a roundabout. Only takes one thing to take you by surprise to make you learn to look around it Laughing
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