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pmark23 Winch Assistant
Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Odometer: 56
2001 Lada Niva
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 2:24 am Post subject: Air Conditioning
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Soon it will be summer -- and with temperatures in the 40's over here, an air-conditioner for my 2001 Niva (Russian model -- 1.7 carb'd) would be a good idea.
I've read that there's an aftermarket Australian model, and according to this site there's a Japanese company that makes on for the Lada Zhiguli (which theoretically should fit in a Niva.)
I can't find information on any of these aftermarket conditioners. Has anyone installed one? From where? Any problems? How much?
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pmark23 Winch Assistant
Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Odometer: 56
2001 Lada Niva
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 1:02 am Post subject:
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I sent an email to the site admin, and this is the reply:
Quote: | hi Mark!
sorry but we don't know anything about it. only that, what is written.
somebody sent it to mailing list, we don't know him,
and his email address doesn't exist
sorry.
bg_ |
I still haven't been able to Google anything about a Japanese kit (or the Australian one, for that matter).
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pmark23 Winch Assistant
Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Odometer: 56
2001 Lada Niva
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:39 am Post subject:
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Thanks.
A bit more of a search found several dealers across Russia -- I'm looking for a local dealer/installer now.
I found some pictures here of the conditioner installed in a Niva (bottom of page.)
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adventurekel Just got MTs
Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Odometer: 107 Location: Oz, south end of Earth.
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:19 am Post subject:
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Placing the evaporator above the standard heat exchanger is a great idea. I had visions of a kit being a box hanging from under the passenger side dash. The duct tape is a nice look of course Very professional
It wouldnt be too hard to collect parts from another car and copy that system shown. Just need a button inside that operates the compressor clutch solenoid and you are all go.
Its got me thinking at least.. Its bloody hot in Oz after all..
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pmark23 Winch Assistant
Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Odometer: 56
2001 Lada Niva
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:20 am Post subject:
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The kit for the Niva costs around 1500 Euro!
Kits for American cars (classics and hot-rods) are around US$800.
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ahma Just got MTs
Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Odometer: 161 Location: Sweden
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baxter Articulating
Joined: 08 May 2006 Odometer: 647 Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
1990 Lada Niva
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:18 am Post subject:
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Yeah, aftermarket ACs for the Niva all seem pretty dear.
If I wanted AC I'd look at pulling a used Jap import. It'd probably be a reasonable amount of work, but I imagine you'd get the bits for next to noting.
I've torn off and tossed out several of my Hondas, and am starting to wish I'd kept them just for a wee look see what would be involved in fitting one in a Niva.
__________________________________ 1990 Niva 1600, 2" lift, LSD
www.ladaniva.co.uk/baxter -Baxter's Temple of Niva Site
If you do not have anything to occupy yourself - buy a Niva. |
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ahorton Just got MTs
Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Odometer: 243 Location: Western Australia
1988 Lada Niva
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject:
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I've seen 2 AC Ladas here in Western Australia. Both were in scrap yards. Neither lasted more than 50,000km but the AC looked solid. One of them I tore apart to make myself an air compressor.
They looked pretty simple and I was almost tempted to AC my Lada but I wanted an air compressor more.
__________________________________ 88 Lada Niva 1600 Weber Carb with pretty paint job.
94 Lada Niva 1600 Carb in bits and pieces
93 Lada Niva 1600 Carb in bits and pieces
Not got MTs. Got nice smooth sand tyres! |
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baxter Articulating
Joined: 08 May 2006 Odometer: 647 Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
1990 Lada Niva
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:45 am Post subject:
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If anyone's look at 'factory' fitted Niva AC - just make sure it's NOT the same as fitted to South African Nivas. "Neither lasted more than 50,000km" suggests to me it may be the same...
According to the SA parts dealer there (Centurion) SA AC Nivas are garenteed to destroy no. 4 cylinder at low kms.
__________________________________ 1990 Niva 1600, 2" lift, LSD
www.ladaniva.co.uk/baxter -Baxter's Temple of Niva Site
If you do not have anything to occupy yourself - buy a Niva. |
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adventurekel Just got MTs
Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Odometer: 107 Location: Oz, south end of Earth.
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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject:
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Why would the AC do that to the engine? How on earth did they rig it up?
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baxter Articulating
Joined: 08 May 2006 Odometer: 647 Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
1990 Lada Niva
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:58 am Post subject:
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Pass.
Have a look at the technical page at http://www.ladacenturion.sa.gs/ (down at the moment, but was there just a few days ago), and in the buyers guide he mentions it.
PS - does everyone else find South African sites only load once in a blue moon? eg the LOCSA has their saite at about five different addresses, and severel work, but only very occasionally.
__________________________________ 1990 Niva 1600, 2" lift, LSD
www.ladaniva.co.uk/baxter -Baxter's Temple of Niva Site
If you do not have anything to occupy yourself - buy a Niva. |
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adventurekel Just got MTs
Joined: 30 Dec 2006 Odometer: 107 Location: Oz, south end of Earth.
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Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:38 pm Post subject:
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Thanks. Found it on that site eventually.
He believes the AC compressor is too large for the Lada engine causing too much low RPM load, thereby lowering oil pressure. Interesting theory. Probably good advice.
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Danie Winch Assistant
Joined: 23 Jan 2010 Odometer: 66 Location: Durban, South Africa
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:49 am Post subject:
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baxter wrote: | If anyone's look at 'factory' fitted Niva AC - just make sure it's NOT the same as fitted to South African Nivas. "Neither lasted more than 50,000km" suggests to me it may be the same...
According to the SA parts dealer there (Centurion) SA AC Nivas are garenteed to destroy no. 4 cylinder at low kms. |
As far as I know low engine RPM's at idling speed were causing a lack of proper engine lubricating, as well as overheating problems in South Africa.
Some positive comments about an original Lada Aircon in South Africa can be found here:
http://www.locsa.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=...lay&thread=73
By the way, I think the local parts dealer's (Centurion) comment should rather be seen as a warning against low engine idling speed , when any given aircon gets installed.
Anyone who has problems in finding the South African site could just try this link - it always works :
http://www.locsa.proboards.com/
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Toseland Mud Obsessed
Joined: 25 Oct 2011 Odometer: 3209 Location: cardiff
1999 Suzuki Vitara
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:40 pm Post subject:
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__________________________________ I live by 2 sayings:
1. The beatings will continue until morale improves
2. Pain is just Weakness leaving the body..
The feeling you get when you first smash your shaft out, is one you will never forget.. especially if you do it in front of 10 guys. |
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