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people dying as they are hit by snapping recovery rope.

 
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:25 pm    Post subject: people dying as they are hit by snapping recovery rope. Reply with quote

WARNING GRAPHIC

LINK REMOVED

When offroading try not to get carried away (on a stretcher)

stand well back during recoveries.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graphic, but maybe a video like that will make people think twice. We do winching, and craning of ocean bottom cables, and when they go it is frightening.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: people dying as they are hit by snapping recovery rope. Reply with quote

Sman wrote:
WARNING GRAPHIC



When offroading try not to get carried away (on a stretcher)

stand well back during recoveries.


Not a surprising accident... and what is the betting that those same people crowd similar activity like that in the future Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just sent this link via PM before spotting this thread, not so sure this one should be open for all...


edit - I do agree though that this sort of thing should be shown in some capacity because it does highlight in graphic detail the sort of forces involved when things go wrong.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAJEROstu wrote:
Just sent this link via PM before spotting this thread, not so sure this one should be open for all...


edit - I do agree though that this sort of thing should be shown in some capacity because it does highlight in graphic detail the sort of forces involved when things go wrong.


agree to that.

ots a bit gory but i guess you are warning people of the dangers of standing too close ect

i mean even this makes you Shocked http://youtu.be/bexBxd_oC4U

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it's a stark reminder to us all to stand well clear of any strops and ropes under high tensile pressure but the video could have done without seeing the poor lads laid out like that imo maybe if it was blurred out or something...

How many of us can say we've never stood that close to a truck with the taps open on full when caught up in the action, we've all had our moments of stupidity it's just a shame these lads paid the price with their lives.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've stood close admitedly, but this is the reasoning as to why i don't use ropes and stick with my big chains.

even though with chains they can react the same way as ropes when they break.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst the video serves as a reminder of the dangers of our pastime and high-lights how not to carry out recoveries the site owners have decided to remove the video out of respect to those who lost their lives through someone else's stupidity.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's generally not the rope that causes the damage but anything with any mass that is attached to it e.g. shackles or insecure or inappropriate recovery points.

I really don't care what anyone says, snatch recoveries are dangerous and should be a last resort rather than the first choice.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

. wrote:
It's generally not the rope that causes the damage but anything with any mass that is attached to it e.g. shackles or insecure or inappropriate recovery points.

I really don't care what anyone says, snatch recoveries are dangerous and should be a last resort rather than the first choice.


here here.. and the difference a winch blanket can make... often massively overlooked.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I normally look at it like this; if you can tie the rope to an immovable object, (say a large bulldozer) and take a run without bending anything, it'll be okay. But it takes a lot of metal added to a 4x4 to do that. And John Bradshaw of MWOC had a serious dent in his rear stay from a bloke's rear cross member. Lucky it hit the tube and not his head Shocked
Best left alone, as there isn't usually any warning between succesful and ambulance.

I've heard two rope lengths away as standing distance, but that only assumes it all stays connected together. I bet a V8 would easily chuck a rear crossmember 100 meters?

Equally it is cultural. Australians are brought up with kinetic ropes, so they all seem to know what to do with them. (ref thread on kinetic ropes)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

. wrote:
It's generally not the rope that causes the damage but anything with any mass that is attached to it e.g. shackles or insecure or inappropriate recovery points.

I really don't care what anyone says, snatch recoveries are dangerous and should be a last resort rather than the first choice.


i agree with the 2nd part, but the first hmm... just a rope can cause alot of damage, especialy if it hit you. i had a rope snap and hit the front of my landy once, stoved the wing in- which bearing in mind my wings are made from steel tube with alloy panels, i wouldnt want it hitting me in the face!

this also bent the radiator panel!

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