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Sman Articulating
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:25 pm Post subject: people dying as they are hit by snapping recovery rope.
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WARNING GRAPHIC
LINK REMOVED
When offroading try not to get carried away (on a stretcher)
stand well back during recoveries.
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TheHeretic Just got MTs
Joined: 10 Jun 2011 Odometer: 357 Location: Bulgaria! (Ex-Wirral)
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:30 pm Post subject:
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Graphic, but maybe a video like that will make people think twice. We do winching, and craning of ocean bottom cables, and when they go it is frightening.
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Xpajun Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: people dying as they are hit by snapping recovery rope.
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Sman wrote: | WARNING GRAPHIC
When offroading try not to get carried away (on a stretcher)
stand well back during recoveries. |
Not a surprising accident... and what is the betting that those same people crowd similar activity like that in the future
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GVstu Mud Obsessed
Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Odometer: 2314 Location: Northumberland
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:21 pm Post subject:
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Just sent this link via PM before spotting this thread, not so sure this one should be open for all...
edit - I do agree though that this sort of thing should be shown in some capacity because it does highlight in graphic detail the sort of forces involved when things go wrong.
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fourtrak craige Articulating
Joined: 21 Mar 2012 Odometer: 863 Location: oxfordshire
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:32 pm Post subject:
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PAJEROstu wrote: | Just sent this link via PM before spotting this thread, not so sure this one should be open for all...
edit - I do agree though that this sort of thing should be shown in some capacity because it does highlight in graphic detail the sort of forces involved when things go wrong. |
agree to that.
ots a bit gory but i guess you are warning people of the dangers of standing too close ect
i mean even this makes you http://youtu.be/bexBxd_oC4U
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GVstu Mud Obsessed
Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Odometer: 2314 Location: Northumberland
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:38 pm Post subject:
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Yeah it's a stark reminder to us all to stand well clear of any strops and ropes under high tensile pressure but the video could have done without seeing the poor lads laid out like that imo maybe if it was blurred out or something...
How many of us can say we've never stood that close to a truck with the taps open on full when caught up in the action, we've all had our moments of stupidity it's just a shame these lads paid the price with their lives.
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fourtrak craige Articulating
Joined: 21 Mar 2012 Odometer: 863 Location: oxfordshire
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:46 pm Post subject:
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i've stood close admitedly, but this is the reasoning as to why i don't use ropes and stick with my big chains.
even though with chains they can react the same way as ropes when they break.
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MOD1 Marshall
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Odometer: 24 Location: Difflock
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:46 am Post subject:
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Whilst the video serves as a reminder of the dangers of our pastime and high-lights how not to carry out recoveries the site owners have decided to remove the video out of respect to those who lost their lives through someone else's stupidity.
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. Difflock Royalty
Joined: 19 Jun 2002 Odometer: 40007 Location: Northern Ireland's Gold Coast
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:01 pm Post subject:
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It's generally not the rope that causes the damage but anything with any mass that is attached to it e.g. shackles or insecure or inappropriate recovery points.
I really don't care what anyone says, snatch recoveries are dangerous and should be a last resort rather than the first choice.
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Toseland Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject:
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. wrote: | It's generally not the rope that causes the damage but anything with any mass that is attached to it e.g. shackles or insecure or inappropriate recovery points.
I really don't care what anyone says, snatch recoveries are dangerous and should be a last resort rather than the first choice. |
here here.. and the difference a winch blanket can make... often massively overlooked.
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teamidris Mud Obsessed
Joined: 24 Feb 2008 Odometer: 3372 Location: Staffordshire UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:23 am Post subject:
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I normally look at it like this; if you can tie the rope to an immovable object, (say a large bulldozer) and take a run without bending anything, it'll be okay. But it takes a lot of metal added to a 4x4 to do that. And John Bradshaw of MWOC had a serious dent in his rear stay from a bloke's rear cross member. Lucky it hit the tube and not his head
Best left alone, as there isn't usually any warning between succesful and ambulance.
I've heard two rope lengths away as standing distance, but that only assumes it all stays connected together. I bet a V8 would easily chuck a rear crossmember 100 meters?
Equally it is cultural. Australians are brought up with kinetic ropes, so they all seem to know what to do with them. (ref thread on kinetic ropes)
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N.R.G97 Off-Road Guru
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Odometer: 1502 Location: somerset.
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject:
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. wrote: | It's generally not the rope that causes the damage but anything with any mass that is attached to it e.g. shackles or insecure or inappropriate recovery points.
I really don't care what anyone says, snatch recoveries are dangerous and should be a last resort rather than the first choice. |
i agree with the 2nd part, but the first hmm... just a rope can cause alot of damage, especialy if it hit you. i had a rope snap and hit the front of my landy once, stoved the wing in- which bearing in mind my wings are made from steel tube with alloy panels, i wouldnt want it hitting me in the face!
this also bent the radiator panel!
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