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JemAndes Just got MTs
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Odometer: 446 Location: 10th region (lakes region) Chile
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 11:31 am Post subject: POW! SLAM! RUB! F73 Suspensiion brakage
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First off, it's still dark out. So, photos will come later. However, I was driving yesterday, when I got to a bad section in the road, it's a 30cm-40cm drop off of asphalt into a hole. I was dropping into the hole slowly when, all of the sudden, I hear (with my wife), a very loud POW!!!! Like an small explosion, and something hitting the floorboard hard. When I get out of the hole, I notice that my front right, you guys driver side/my passenger sided, is sitting on my tyre.
I was on my way important, and it was pooring rain and pitch black. Good thing is, I was only about 5 km from the house. So, I gentelly turned the jeep around and drove it very slowly home. I'm pretty sure that it's something to do with the torsion bar. I just don't know what yet.
From the sound, I think it may be some of the fastening bolts for the Torsion that broke. I can't image my torsion bar broke. When I have more light, I'll take photos and look under the truck.
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nutshot Winch Assistant
Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Odometer: 96 Location: Chesterfield
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:01 pm Post subject:
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What an ****** at leased what ever fell off did so while you were going slow and not flat out on the road so one bonus .
Shame your so far away as I`ll be scrapping most of the front end suspension parts off my Indy shortly . Think the post might be a bit dear to send them to you though . If you find its a small ish part let me know and if i have it and its feasible to post you can have it
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parrotveasey81 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Odometer: 7480 Location: bradford on avon (wiltshire)
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject:
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sounds like the bolt has snaped that holds the tension on the torsion bars.
and to answer the pm a sportrak one may fit but might be a different grade so might not be as strong
you may get lucky and be able to use one from a surf/forunner,hilux pickup(mk4/5) or shogun
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JemAndes Just got MTs
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Odometer: 446 Location: 10th region (lakes region) Chile
1998 Daihatsu Fourtrak
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject:
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nutshot wrote: | What an ****** at leased what ever fell off did so while you were going slow and not flat out on the road so one bonus .
Shame your so far away as I`ll be scrapping most of the front end suspension parts off my Indy shortly . Think the post might be a bit dear to send them to you though . If you find its a small ish part let me know and if i have it and its feasible to post you can have it |
Thanks Nutshot! I really appreciate the offer.
Your right though, at least I wasn't going too fast, and the other thing, is that I was close to home.
As far as needing a part... I found out what I need, and I'm fixing it up now.
Quote: | Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:32 pm Post subject:
sounds like the bolt has snaped that holds the tension on the torsion bars.
and to answer the pm a sportrak one may fit but might be a different grade so might not be as strong
you may get lucky and be able to use one from a surf/forunner,hilux pickup(mk4/5) or shogun |
Parrot, you were almost right, but not quite. You got the area and that there was a brakeage, but what broke wasn't the bolt, but the tension arm itself.
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parrotveasey81 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Odometer: 7480 Location: bradford on avon (wiltshire)
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:14 pm Post subject:
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glad your fixing it but dont forget we like pics
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JemAndes Just got MTs
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Odometer: 446 Location: 10th region (lakes region) Chile
1998 Daihatsu Fourtrak
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:26 pm Post subject:
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JemAndes Just got MTs
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Odometer: 446 Location: 10th region (lakes region) Chile
1998 Daihatsu Fourtrak
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:31 pm Post subject:
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I started rebuilding the piece yesterday, but i had to go somewhere and I didn't have time to get photos or finish it. Maybe today I'll be able to finish. I'll let you guys know.
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parrotveasey81 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Odometer: 7480 Location: bradford on avon (wiltshire)
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 1:33 pm Post subject:
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GVstu Mud Obsessed
Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Odometer: 2314 Location: Northumberland
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 2:24 pm Post subject:
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__________________________________ He asked me if I'd seen a road with so much dust and sand; And I said, "Listen! I've traveled every road in this here land!" |
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JemAndes Just got MTs
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Odometer: 446 Location: 10th region (lakes region) Chile
1998 Daihatsu Fourtrak
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject:
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Tell me about it! I'm going to work on my tension arm now.
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fourtrak craige Articulating
Joined: 21 Mar 2012 Odometer: 863 Location: oxfordshire
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject:
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wow made a nice job of that
i see shiny new welding gauntlet there eric, are you gunna get em dirty? lol
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JemAndes Just got MTs
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Odometer: 446 Location: 10th region (lakes region) Chile
1998 Daihatsu Fourtrak
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 12:18 pm Post subject:
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wow made a nice job of that
i see shiny new welding gauntlet there eric, are you gunna get em dirty? lol |
Tell me about it Craige... When I do a job, I do it right.
As far as the gloves go, I'm not so sure that I'll get them dirty. I don't really like welding gloves. I usually go for mechanics gloves and just grit thru the burning flesh.
Quick question for you guys though. Does anyone have a photo of the tension arm that I am repairing off the torsion bar and installed that I can see. I want to see what kind of reinforcement i can put between the 2 verticles with out interfering w/ the bolt travel arc.
Thanks!
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JemAndes Just got MTs
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Odometer: 446 Location: 10th region (lakes region) Chile
1998 Daihatsu Fourtrak
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:41 pm Post subject:
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So, I finished... uh... well almost finished the torsion bar tension arm repair. I just forgot to weld a bridge on the top to keep the walls from seperating. Other than that, I just want to paint it black and install it. Then, I'm going to take the other one off and re-inforce it.
Since we all like the photos so much, here are some of todays process.
Just so you guys know, I used a fluxcore mig welder on this. I just can't justify the cost of a real mig at the moment. Mig/gax mix is sooo much beter!
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parrotveasey81 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Odometer: 7480 Location: bradford on avon (wiltshire)
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:47 pm Post subject:
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should last now
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fourtrak craige Articulating
Joined: 21 Mar 2012 Odometer: 863 Location: oxfordshire
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:44 pm Post subject:
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JemAndes wrote: |
Just so you guys know, I used a fluxcore mig welder on this. I just can't justify the cost of a real mig at the moment. Mig/gax mix is sooo much beter! |
could of done all of that with a nice Arc welder mate
or did i just swear???????
when i use welding gloves i only tend to use the right hand glove. please note i'm a lefty i'm weird i know that
P.s Eric it looks like a good job mate
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JemAndes Just got MTs
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Odometer: 446 Location: 10th region (lakes region) Chile
1998 Daihatsu Fourtrak
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:17 pm Post subject:
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fourtrak craige wrote: | JemAndes wrote: |
Just so you guys know, I used a fluxcore mig welder on this. I just can't justify the cost of a real mig at the moment. Mig/gax mix is sooo much beter! |
could of done all of that with a nice Arc welder mate
or did i just swear???????
when i use welding gloves i only tend to use the right hand glove. please note i'm a lefty i'm weird i know that
P.s Eric it looks like a good job mate |
I think arc is great for certain styles of welding and applications. Mig is just considerably better for finer finishing and getting into tight spots.
Today I did the same thing (gloves wise), but opposite. I'm right handed. And thanks for the complements. I haven't welded in about 8 yrs now.
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GVstu Mud Obsessed
Joined: 05 Mar 2008 Odometer: 2314 Location: Northumberland
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 8:43 am Post subject:
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Well it looks good and beefy mate plenty of good weld on that... "enough to hold up the pit" as my father'd say...
Nice work!
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fourtrak craige Articulating
Joined: 21 Mar 2012 Odometer: 863 Location: oxfordshire
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject:
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the best thing i ever weld with an arc welder is steel thats been galvenised. welding that stuff with a mig is a mightmare
note: the galv is cleaned off as much as possible.
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if i can't break it, it must be a fourtrak
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JemAndes Just got MTs
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Odometer: 446 Location: 10th region (lakes region) Chile
1998 Daihatsu Fourtrak
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 11:50 am Post subject:
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So, for now, the tension arm trouble is done with. I have painted it and installed it.
Sorry. I forgot to take a pic of it painted before I installed it. Eventually, when I have the time, I will be pulling the other one off and re-inforcing it too. For now though, I driving my Trak again.
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nutshot Winch Assistant
Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Odometer: 96 Location: Chesterfield
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:15 pm Post subject:
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Nice write up Eric .
Heres another potential suspension problem on the older Indy`s thats worth checking if you take the back springs off .
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JemAndes Just got MTs
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Odometer: 446 Location: 10th region (lakes region) Chile
1998 Daihatsu Fourtrak
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:55 pm Post subject:
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nutshot wrote: | Nice write up Eric .
Heres another potential suspension problem on the older Indy`s thats worth checking if you take the back springs off .
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Yeah, you poor, poor souls there in the UK. All that beautiful snow makes for beautiful ice, and all that ice means salt. In turn, the salt means... well, exactly what you have there.
Really though, it's not to bad to fix. Here's a rough idea of what I would do.
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fourtrak craige Articulating
Joined: 21 Mar 2012 Odometer: 863 Location: oxfordshire
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject:
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wow nutshot that looks bad
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JemAndes Just got MTs
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Odometer: 446 Location: 10th region (lakes region) Chile
1998 Daihatsu Fourtrak
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:03 pm Post subject:
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By the way Nutshot, thanks for the compliment!
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nutshot Winch Assistant
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject:
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Aye I think its pretty much fooked
Spent a few hours last Sunday cutting out some new base plates and hammering some 30mm x 3mm thick steel strips into shape to replace the spring locating noggin . Looking like it will work ok when I weld it all up next weekend
I`ll add some bracing to the noggin once Ive got it looking something like .
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JemAndes Just got MTs
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Odometer: 446 Location: 10th region (lakes region) Chile
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject:
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nutshot wrote: | Aye I think its pretty much fooked
Spent a few hours last Sunday cutting out some new base plates and hammering some 30mm x 3mm thick steel strips into shape to replace the spring locating noggin . Looking like it will work ok when I weld it all up next weekend
I`ll add some bracing to the noggin once Ive got it looking something like . |
Cool man, sounds like a winner. As always though, we want the photos.
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fourtrak craige Articulating
Joined: 21 Mar 2012 Odometer: 863 Location: oxfordshire
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject:
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have you got any pics of it nutshot? it'd be nice to see
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if i can't break it, it must be a fourtrak
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nutshot Winch Assistant
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject:
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I havn`t got any pics yet as its just a flat plate and a bent bit of steel strip so far.
I`ll hopefully get them welded up next weekend and then the real work can start getting the axle mounted in place then its full steam ahead hopefully . I`ll take loads of pictures as I go and do a proper thread at some point .
I don`t want to start a build thread yet as its gonna be slow going with working 6 days a week meaning I can`t spend as much time on the build as I would like . I`m doing 99% of the work outside so apart from the rust delays Ive got to work round the weather to get anything done
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fourtrak craige Articulating
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:01 pm Post subject:
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the weather is just ruddy horrible
ok well i look forward to seeing the thread
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if i can't break it, it must be a fourtrak
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nutshot Winch Assistant
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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:07 pm Post subject:
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I`ll try and get some pics of the new plates up hopefully next weekend if they turn out good but I`ll save most of them for the build thread .
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