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What length waffles should I buy ? |
1.22 meters |
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1.48 meters |
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38% |
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2.0 meters |
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Don`t bother. |
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Barnyzuki Guest
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:37 pm Post subject: Waffles / bridging ladders
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I`ve always wanted a pair of waffles, the only thing I always wonder about is the size.
The few times I`ve used them and seen them used I always thought they needed to be longer.
Tracmat do 50mm thick heavy duty ones in 1220, 1482 and 2000 mm lengths.
How am I going to carry 2 meter long waffles on the X-90
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ivorbiggin Mud Obsessed
Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Odometer: 2485 Location: PORTSMOUTH
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: Waffles / bridging ladders
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Barnyzuki wrote: | I`ve always wanted a pair of waffles, the only thing I always wonder about is the size.
The few times I`ve used them and seen them used I always thought they needed to be longer.
Tracmat do 50mm thick heavy duty ones in 1220, 1482 and 2000 mm lengths.
How am I going to carry 2 meter long waffles on the X-90 |
Now your a northener and im a southerner, and we use different terms for the same thing.
So i guess your not talking about those batter /dough cake thingys.
A 2 metre long x 50mm thick waffle is just mind boggling to us southerners.
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Barnyzuki Guest
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:54 pm Post subject:
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Me Northern
I`m from Camberwell
Oi oi saveloy, sarf London boys bite yer legs orf !
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spannerman69 Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:17 pm Post subject:
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how wide is you boot lid , fab up some mounts and fix them to the picnic table at the back .
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ivorbiggin Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:25 pm Post subject:
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Barnyzuki wrote: | Me Northern
I`m from Camberwell
Oi oi saveloy, sarf London boys bite yer legs orf ! |
cor blimey geezer best i shut me norf and sarf, oi still aint got a clue what a bleedin waffle is though
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oshimon Mooch Master
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:26 pm Post subject:
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Do they do them in pink then?
Simon 'disguise them as surf boards' Owen.
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Toseland Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:32 pm Post subject:
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i havent got a clue so i am gonna default to the bigges tis best lol
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teamidris Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:08 am Post subject:
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I voted "don't bother". Unless you are in sand or light soil!
They work really well, but on heavy clay, you'll need a hiab to get them back on board
I was thinking of going 'trailer ramp' type next. Either ally flat or steel rungs?
I asked what else was in the fiberglass range, and could there be one with a hole design that let clay out. But the moulds are stainless steel, so specials would be big money
I'd need a big powerfull buyer like Difflock
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Barnyzuki Guest
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:17 am Post subject:
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Fill the gaps with expanding foam, should stop them acting like a giant clay slicing ,,,,errrrrr,,,,, slicing things.
Just an idea, can`t see why it wouldn`t work or why no one else has done it yet....
Would anyone like to try it first for me
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Xpajun Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:38 am Post subject:
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The holes are part of the non-slip design - remove them and they'll just slip right out from the mud.
Mind you, they don't actually have to be that small if you think about it - you could cut some out...
And the reason they are that small is because their primary use is to turn a grass area into a load bearing area, as in grass runways etc.
I think mine are about 1.2M - I think they're big enough - they aren't lightweight for a start and go bigger than 1.2 and you can't store them across the truck - 2M I don't believe one person would be able to handle and do you have a 2M+ wheelbase?
Incidentally you need to handle them with gloves, especially after the first use
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clbarclay Off-Road Guru
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:41 am Post subject:
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I have 1.2m x 38mm waffle boards, bought on the cheap in a choice of only one length. They work quite well at that length, but occasional a longer one would be better, so I've voted for 1.48m.
Ivor, a waffle 2000x310x50mm is nothing to a proper northerners appetite, some of them actually like the crunchy fibreglass texture
Steve, If you can come up with a waffle board design that can resist Buildwas clay then I'm sure you will recover the tooling costs quick enough. For small quantities, a metal "ladder" made out of box/angle works well though, but can weight the same as a blocked up waffle board to start with
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nutshot Winch Assistant
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:56 pm Post subject:
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For super cheap I used to use old bread trays like this http://www.rehrigpacific.com/products-and-servi...hbt-23-bread-tray .
Cut the sides off , cut the bottoms in half long way so you have 2 strips . They are only a 2-3 foot long so I used bits of nylon rope to tie them together and make them as long as I needed . The rope works like a hinge so you can just fold them up Worked great on my old suzuki
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teamidris Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject:
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I put spray foam (technically I sprayed spray foam) betwixt QT diff gaurd and the diff for the same reason, but pressure washing is now an issue
Remember to cover one half in cling film if you do this
I thought about a wooden broom thing, but with pockey square sticks that line up with the waffle holes. It took both me and Terry to lift them from one Brosely section
I wondered about cutting. I'm thinking the 50mm pitch is there so you can't trip up when its walked on it?
So how much could it loose? Should it have crosses cut out so the holes are double the size? Or cut bits out long ways so the bridging-strength is as good? Or cut loads and give it ally channel side rails, so it is more open but even stronger?
I will give "cut loads out and give it ally channel side rails" a good think.....
It might resurect mine, and I can maybe get them all the way around the outside and welded on. Then they wouldn't be so spikey to pick up, and could have a side handle
Are you ready to stick you pinkys into you're wallet for a new product
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clbarclay Off-Road Guru
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:59 pm Post subject:
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I think a moth bit my finger last time I went near my wallet but I'm probably a fairly extreme example in most cases.
I wondered whether just making the waffle boards with a large draft taper on all the side faces so the holes are noticeably tapered would allow it to be lifted off the mud in most conditions rather than mud sticking in the holes. Made from stainless I expect the moulds last a very long time, but a worn one (if such an item existed) could be re-machined to suit.
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mudplugga Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:18 pm Post subject:
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How about....under the waffle board use a sacrificial bit of that black cloth kinda stuff gardeners use to keep weeds from growing ? It's close weave and strong, just cable tie it to the waffle and it might keep most of the clag ( as found in Broseley and Buildwas ) out of the holes in the waffles ?
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winchman Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:18 am Post subject:
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nutshot wrote: | For super cheap I used to use old bread trays like this http://www.rehrigpacific.com/products-and-servi...hbt-23-bread-tray .
Cut the sides off , cut the bottoms in half long way so you have 2 strips . They are only a 2-3 foot long so I used bits of nylon rope to tie them together and make them as long as I needed . The rope works like a hinge so you can just fold them up Worked great on my old suzuki |
Thats what I like about Suzuki owners, they tell you how to do it on the cheap LOL
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scut44 Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:03 am Post subject:
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These are 120cm x 31 cm and long enough for me to use for crossing ditches in a Jimny & been used for 90's as well.
Not too heavy in this length IMO.
george
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Barnyzuki Guest
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:22 pm Post subject:
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Xpajun wrote: |
I think mine are about 1.2M - I think they're big enough - they aren't lightweight for a start and go bigger than 1.2 and you can't store them across the truck - 2M I don't believe one person would be able to handle and do you have a 2M+ wheelbase? |
3 meters wheelbase, give or take an inch
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