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rockwatt
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| 350 Vortec wrote: |
I started stripping the loom on a v70 on Sun,definately not a therapeutic experience for me,disaster  i definately wont be able to put back together myself |
Ha you will have to post pics of your "ugly" wiring !! Pmsl
When striping a loom don't cut anything ! Put a lable on everything and even include switches, then strip all insulation and lay the loom out on a board and methodically work your way through it removing bits you don't want and shortening and lengthening to suit. Then use that as a plan to make the new one! That's my system it works for me.
But I'll just be doing the (make the new one bit)
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rockwatt
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:18 pm Post subject:
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Today's little bit, couple if hours this morning.
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cynic-al
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:33 pm Post subject:
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with all those jigs it would be a shame to only make one...
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4x4rick
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:32 pm Post subject:
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| cynic-al wrote: | | with all those jigs it would be a shame to only make one... |
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i said we needed a chat
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350 Vortec
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:04 pm Post subject:
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| rockwatt wrote: |
Ha you will have to post pics of your "ugly" wiring !! Pmsl
When striping a loom don't cut anything ! Put a lable on everything and even include switches, then strip all insulation and lay the loom out on a board and methodically work your way through it removing bits you don't want and shortening and lengthening to suit. Then use that as a plan to make the new one! That's my system it works for me.
But I'll just be doing the (make the new one bit) |
Ugly probably wont go far enough  ,yeah thanks for advice, been trying to keep everything intact but it's still a mess!!is that all jig work or do you have an RSJ Chassis??looking at the lower wishbone hub end,would you have gained a little clearance by raising a little,i guess you'd have had to move top up and out giving a long swing and more stress on everything or fit bigger wheels,just thinking,looking forward to seeing how you set up the 5th CV..not sure what pmsl is but a wild guess has me thinking ther must be a fair bang off ya at this stage Rockwatt
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weld-werx
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject:
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great stuff, a very interesting build!
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rockwatt
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:10 pm Post subject:
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| 350 Vortec wrote: |
Ugly probably wont go far enough ,yeah thanks for advice, been trying to keep everything intact but it's still a mess!!is that all jig work or do you have an RSJ Chassis??looking at the lower wishbone hub end,would you have gained a little clearance by raising a little,i guess you'd have had to move top up and out giving a long swing and more stress on everything or fit bigger wheels,just thinking,looking forward to seeing how you set up the 5th CV..not sure what pmsl is but a wild guess has me thinking ther must be a fair bang off ya at this stage Rockwatt |
Pmsl = p##t my self laughing !
Yes that part of the chassis is an I section (IPE) not (RSJ) it's a special section that's not commercially available. It's only thin wall under 3mm on the web so very light and it will be webbed and boxed so it will be light and strong. And it's only the lower part of a composit backbone.
The lower joint can't go any higher ! As there is one of them silly cv things in the way !!
I spent months working out the suspension geometry and I'm not going to muck it up for 10mm extra ground clearance. The lower wishbones will bow upwards but the pivot points are critical.
Instead of jumping ten steps forward in the build can you just keep watching as all of your questions would have/will be answered as things progress ! Then you will come back and post "I see what you mean now"
3 pages already and I've only made a couple of posts ! It's goin to end up 15 pages of drivel.
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arreff77
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:43 pm Post subject:
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| rockwatt wrote: |
Yes that part of the chassis is an I section (IPE) not (RSJ) it's a special section that's not commercially available. It's only thin wall under 3mm on the web |
sounds interesting, is it smaller than IPE80 in section?
nice jig work btw, nice to see a well built one.
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rockwatt
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:09 pm Post subject:
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| arreff77 wrote: |
sounds interesting, is it smaller than IPE80 in section?
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It's IPE 100x56 2.9 on the web 3.6 on the flange in u50d grade
It's normally 4.6 and 5.4
When it's complete it will be like box section with internal bracing.
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rockwatt
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject:
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lower wishbones , not finished yet ! Still got shock mounts to bulid in. 
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Xpajun
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject:
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| That is tube which has been cased in flat? What advantage are you gaining by doing it that way? Also what is the length of it, I take it it is bigger than a standard wishbone, but how much?
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rockwatt
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:13 pm Post subject:
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| Xpajun wrote: | | That is tube which has been cased in flat? What advantage are you gaining by doing it that way? Also what is the length of it, I take it it is bigger than a standard wishbone, but how much? |
Take a piece of steel 20mmx6mm about 500mm long and bend it over your knee, then take 2 pieces the same but only 3mm thick , weld them together along the length and then bend that over your knee !! And tell me which one needed the most effort ?
Answer = more strengh same weight.
It's about twice the size of an average front wishbone that you would find on say a shogun.
Q's like that would be better in a pm if you don't mind me saying.
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Xpajun
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| Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 7:27 pm Post subject:
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Thank you for your answer....
I'll reserve future questions of that type for PMs 
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rockwatt
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:46 pm Post subject:
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A bit repetertive but a fairly productive few hours 
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rockwatt
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:49 pm Post subject:
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Few more.
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Toseland
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:13 pm Post subject:
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another night i am going to have to take a cold shower..
lol,.
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andy4w
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:16 pm Post subject:
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Thanks Rich for the Porn off for a shower yer bugg**
Andy.............will have to try and see it before it gets muddy mate
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rockwatt
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:58 pm Post subject:
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| andy4w wrote: | Thanks Rich for the Porn off for a shower yer bugg**
Andy.............will have to try and see it before it gets muddy mate |
Any time buddy ! You know where I am.
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forkrentfitter
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:25 pm Post subject:
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| rapidly going off you rich,no one likes a smart ****
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rockwatt
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:20 am Post subject:
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| forkrentfitter wrote: | | rapidly going off you rich,no one likes a smart **** |
Aww that's not very nice
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forkrentfitter
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:24 pm Post subject:
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| slightly offf topic but i used my tig today,first time in 9 months,repaired a part in stainless for a milking parlour,quite enjoyed it.
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rockwatt
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:11 pm Post subject:
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| forkrentfitter wrote: | | slightly offf topic but i used my tig today,first time in 9 months,repaired a part in stainless for a milking parlour,quite enjoyed it. |
I must admit I find tig welding quite therapeutic 
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| Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:19 pm Post subject:
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| my boy just text me,he got a distinction in tig theory exam at college.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:50 pm Post subject:
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Four days and no updates... come on Rich', the world is watching... and waiting...
Dave
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rockwatt
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:17 am Post subject:
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| Vitara-Dave wrote: | Four days and no updates... come on Rich', the world is watching... and waiting...
Dave |
A bit of waiting never harmed anyone
Been busy machining parts out ! alloy outer beadlocks , MDPE inner wheel beadlock inserts, bush holders etc
More updates when I do some assembly !
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rockwatt
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 10:38 pm Post subject:
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machined some outer beadlocks from alloy plate and blasted them ready for a coat of powder 
machined a double changer on the edges to give the tires a bit of relief 
next is machine some bits if huge MDPE pipe for the wheel inserts. 
Back soon
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Toseland
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:04 pm Post subject:
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can i have "made by rockwatt" tigged onto my new transfer box please..
can i specify the font too? lol
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rockwatt
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| Toseland wrote: | can i have "made by rockwatt" tigged onto my new transfer box please..
can i specify the font too? lol |
Umm let me think about that !!!!
Thought about it "no"
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weldingscotty803
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:55 am Post subject:
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Ooo that pipe and ally looks familiar... Tis looking good. Could you fit them ally plates in the lathe ok or did you have to machine them on the miller?
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rockwatt
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:16 am Post subject:
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| weldingscotty803 wrote: | | Could you fit them ally plates in the lathe ok or did you have to machine them on the miller? |
The clue is in the pic's ! It's a big lathe that would take 16" diameter.
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