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Cutty Dyer
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 Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:57 am Post subject: Guidance on the legality of veg oil (SVO)…
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The web site vegoilmotoring.com states that:
“since July 2007 if you are using/producing less than 2500 litres per year of SVO which is not duty paid then you are not required to pay duty on this fuel”
However, on the HM Revenue & Customs site I’m unable to find any reference to a duty free 2500 litre annual allowance. The HM Revenue site states:
“You can use vegetable oil in your car and mix it with diesel (vegetable oil is generally used as a substitute for diesel) but you will have to make arrangements to pay the Excise Duty to HMRC.”
Please can someone clarify the situation for me 
UPDATE:
Looked a little harder on the HM Revenue site and it appears it is legal to use up to 2500 L /yr - I'll be giving it a go...
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its GED
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:36 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | 2.4 What are my obligations?
If you produce 2,500 litres or more biofuels a year, or use 2,500 litres or more of biofuels as motor fuel on which duty has not been paid, you will need to contact us so that we can make arrangements for you to account for the excise duty due on any products set aside, or delivered for use, as a motor fuel.
loads of regs here
Note: If you have produced less than 2,500 litres in the last 12 months, or if you expect to produce less than this amount in the next 12 months, you may be an exempt producer. If you are an exempt producer you are only required to keep production records (see item 2 in the above table). See paragraph 4.2.1 for more information. |
http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp...document#P97_7781
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its GED
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:37 pm Post subject: Re: Guidance on the legality of veg oil (SVO)…
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| Cutty Dyer wrote: | | I'll be giving it a go... |
what do you drive?
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Cutty Dyer
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Guidance on the legality of veg oil (SVO)…
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| its GED wrote: | | Cutty Dyer wrote: | | I'll be giving it a go... |
what do you drive? |
1997 110 300tdi; from what I've read 70:30 summer & 50:50 mild winter?
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its GED
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:15 pm Post subject:
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| Ahh, Nat or Terence are your landrover people. Sorry
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psycho_sarah
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:56 pm Post subject:
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| my uncle has a 300tdi and he only puts 10% veggie in winter. and only when it's mild. last week he had to top up with diesel to make starting easier.
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Cutty Dyer
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:12 pm Post subject:
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| psycho_sarah wrote: | | my uncle has a 300tdi and he only puts 10% veggie in winter. and only when it's mild. last week he had to top up with diesel to make starting easier. |
Noted; do you know what ratios he runs spring, summer & autumn?
Has he experienced any related issues (to cope with the extra load, thought I'd replace my old lift pump with a shiny new OEM one)
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psycho_sarah
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:27 pm Post subject:
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in summer he usually runs at 70%. if going on a long run he ups that to 80%, possibly 90% if it's very hot and he's on a very long run, then adds diesel at the end of his journey to thin it out for starting from cold again.
not sure what he runs spring and autumn. i'd guess somewhere in between depending on ambient temperatures.
he's not said his mpg has got better or worse. when i've got a lift off him the only time i've noticed a difference is in winter when it runs slightly rough (i think the technical term is 'lumpy'  ) until it warms up.
you need to change your fuel filter after 500 miles, and carry a spare one as veggie is good for pulling all the crap from the bottom of the tank.
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Cutty Dyer
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| Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:31 am Post subject:
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| psycho_sarah wrote: | in summer he usually runs at 70%. if going on a long run he ups that to 80%, possibly 90% if it's very hot and he's on a very long run, then adds diesel at the end of his journey to thin it out for starting from cold again.
not sure what he runs spring and autumn. i'd guess somewhere in between depending on ambient temperatures.
he's not said his mpg has got better or worse. when i've got a lift off him the only time i've noticed a difference is in winter when it runs slightly rough (i think the technical term is 'lumpy' ) until it warms up.
you need to change your fuel filter after 500 miles, and carry a spare one as veggie is good for pulling all the crap from the bottom of the tank. |
Maybe bulk buying (1000l+) biodiesel would be a better choice for me - need to investigate all the possible options...
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject:
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do you know any chip shops, other fast food or pubs which need used veggie disposing of?
get hold of used veggie and filter it, ged will tell you how to do that.
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its GED
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:55 pm Post subject:
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| Yup, but steer clear of chippys. Palm oil is no good for this type of stuff.
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terence
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:11 pm Post subject:
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the achiles heel of the 300 tdi on veggy of any ratio is the fuel lift pump...
learn how to change it, carry a spare and convert yours and your spare to jubilee clips instead of olives and carry a spare filter too otherwise happy motoring
add veggy to your ration until she wont start..
latitude dependant but in perthshire mine is twin tanked and starts 100 % of the time, but when i forget to flush it down it will start on 100 % from about april until october..
good luck
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its GED
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:54 pm Post subject:
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Glad you could join us Terence. 
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Cutty Dyer
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| Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:57 pm Post subject:
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Ged, Terence & Psycho, thanks for the guidance – makes for a great forum.
Terence, can you recommend a brand of lift pump that’s more likely to cope with the greater demands of veggy.
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terence
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| Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:49 pm Post subject:
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my current lift pump has covered about 10 K and its a delphi one..
i change em annually as a precaution and always carry a spare , ive been caught a few times..
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Cutty Dyer
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:59 am Post subject:
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| terence wrote: | my current lift pump has covered about 10 K and its a delphi one..
i change em annually as a precaution and always carry a spare , ive been caught a few times.. |
Good advice - haven't made the change to veggy yet, but I've just bought a delphi pump to fit as a bit of preventive maintenance. Will keep the old functioning unit onboard (with nuts & olives attached) as a spare.
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its GED
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| Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:24 pm Post subject:
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remember to keep us posted mate. here if you need us. 
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