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PIGEON Gate Opener
Joined: 29 Oct 2010 Odometer: 8
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: Home made Winch Bumper?
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Hi has anyone made their own Winch bumper?
Phil
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DanWilliams Gate Opener
Joined: 15 Jun 2011 Odometer: 12 Location: Hawarden
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject:
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Ive been wondering the same thing my self recently! Ive also been wondering if i can amend the current bumper i have on my defender 90?
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leeds Just got MTs
Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Odometer: 244 Location: Leeds
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:30 pm Post subject:
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I have seen various homemade/semi commercials bumpers/ground anchors etc.
Have also seen various ground anchors/steeringguards/recovery points fail.
Question really is how good are your design skills and welding skills?
Next question is what is YOUR insurance company attitude to home made kit?
Brendan
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DanWilliams Gate Opener
Joined: 15 Jun 2011 Odometer: 12 Location: Hawarden
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:35 am Post subject:
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Do you have to update your insurer for every modification you make? including wheel sizes and lift kits?
Dan
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excossack Mud Obsessed
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Odometer: 2903 Location: Somewhere
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:15 pm Post subject:
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Its up to you if you declare your mods or not. All mine are declared to my insurance co including:
Rear work light, change of steels wheels to alloys and what size and make of tyre I am using, A bar with spots etc. Some mods they may not be bothered about but just in-case I included them on the form they sent me.
Want I don't want to happen is, if I have an accident and the car gets inspected and they discover I have added an item that they class as a modification it could render my insurance invalid.
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DanWilliams Gate Opener
Joined: 15 Jun 2011 Odometer: 12 Location: Hawarden
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:27 pm Post subject:
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Thanks
better give them a ring then!
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spannerman69 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Odometer: 2807 Location: st.helens
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject:
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best option is to declare every mod , down to the smallest detail and let them decide . if poss put it in writing and have them send you a copy back . that way they can`t say they didn`t recieve it .
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DanWilliams Gate Opener
Joined: 15 Jun 2011 Odometer: 12 Location: Hawarden
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:45 pm Post subject:
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Does the price rise much for modifications????
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spannerman69 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Odometer: 2807 Location: st.helens
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:11 pm Post subject:
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DanWilliams wrote: | Does the price rise much for modifications???? |
if any thing mine came down , theory is ,,,, the more you do , the more you will want to do all you can to stop it being stolen .
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DanWilliams Gate Opener
Joined: 15 Jun 2011 Odometer: 12 Location: Hawarden
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:31 pm Post subject:
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good! will be letting them know tomorrow!
Many Thanks
Dan
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winchman Mud Obsessed
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Odometer: 2757 Location: Village Near St.Helens Merseyside
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:18 pm Post subject:
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spannerman69 wrote: | best option is to declare every mod , down to the smallest detail and let them decide . if poss put it in writing and have them send you a copy back . that way they can`t say they didn`t recieve it . |
Spot on
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winchman Mud Obsessed
Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Odometer: 2757 Location: Village Near St.Helens Merseyside
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject:
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leeds wrote: | I have seen various homemade/semi commercials bumpers/ground anchors etc.
Have also seen various ground anchors/steeringguards/recovery points fail.
Question really is how good are your design skills and welding skills?
Next question is what is YOUR insurance company attitude to home made kit?
Brendan |
Some good points
When I ran Winches International, we designed and made a few bumpers ( still got one in the shed I think?) but we had a full set of engineering calculations done on them, then if we had a problem we could prove we had designed and made it properly
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minimog Off-Road Guru
Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Odometer: 1700
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:11 pm Post subject:
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another handy tip that seems to help when insuring mooded cars
i send pics of the car (front/back/and both sides) that way if theres any probs you can prove they have seen whats been done before they accepted your money
__________________________________ WHAT YOUR ASKED WHEN YOU OWN A MOG
"why have you put a merc star on that"
UNIMOG MOTTO
"IF IT CARNT BE FIXED WITH A BIG HAMMER"
IT MUST BE AN ELECTRICAL FAULT" |
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simonallen Off-Road Guru
Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Odometer: 1019 Location: In the s**t most of the time...
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:20 pm Post subject:
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I've made a few:
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RL12 Just got MTs
Joined: 22 Aug 2010 Odometer: 297 Location: Devon/Shropshire
1987 Daihatsu Fourtrak
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Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:41 pm Post subject:
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heres a pic of the one i made for my sportrak a couple of years ago. essentially a piece of box section with a winch tray welded in then tube bent around the middle and lights.
not the prettiest but nice and strong if you make one i suggest you but those swivel recoverey eyes/shackle things (goodwinch sell them i think) as they're pretty
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cynic-al Mud Obsessed
Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Odometer: 6062 Location: scunthorpe
1989 Suzuki SJ
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:17 am Post subject:
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I made this one as a bolt on for an RRC. It all depends what you want it to stand upto. We were using my car as a dead weight to test a twin motor warn winch to see if we could snap a cheap 12mm plasma. I drove mine into a gulley and burried the front end into the bank then got the warn to try winch it out. The bumper didn't come off so I was happy. I built a similar spec rear bumper and ripped the corner off the box section this weekend when my brakes failed on a trial and I fell on it.
No idea how they would look on these things from insurance / crash test point of view.
Drawings are available for the above.
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paulmurray Articulating
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Odometer: 578 Location: northern ireland
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:49 pm Post subject:
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so did you snap the rope then ??
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cynic-al Mud Obsessed
Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Odometer: 6062 Location: scunthorpe
1989 Suzuki SJ
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:33 pm Post subject:
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No, it was a Chinese import, it seems some in the past haven't been up to it but this one was fine
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RL12 Just got MTs
Joined: 22 Aug 2010 Odometer: 297 Location: Devon/Shropshire
1987 Daihatsu Fourtrak
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:39 pm Post subject:
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i'm saving up for goodwinch bowrope atm, seems like pretty good stuff
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paulmurray Articulating
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Odometer: 578 Location: northern ireland
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:08 pm Post subject:
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i have been abusing one of the chinese winch ropes on my 110 for three years now and still haven't trashed it despite my best efforts
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cynic-al Mud Obsessed
Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Odometer: 6062 Location: scunthorpe
1989 Suzuki SJ
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:49 am Post subject:
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it was from LRS offroad, they do a few different makes. I'm tempted to swap my steel wire for one.
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JonnyG Gate Opener
Joined: 30 Jan 2012 Odometer: 20
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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:38 pm Post subject:
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I done me a home made job, its 2x4 box section welded onto the original mounts and with a winch tray welded onto the bumper and braced up to the mounts
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