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kevsj Just got MTs
Joined: 19 Oct 2009 Odometer: 275 Location: NORTH EAST SUNDERLAND
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: disco gear change 5th to 4th via 3rd
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hi there after buying my disco with a lift i woundering if all or most have a similar problem, when changing down from 5th to 4th you have to go for 3rd then 4th, its not really a massive problem just woundering if theres a easy fix or if its just a landrover comedy gear change problem sort of thing ,,,,cheers
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excossack Mud Obsessed
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Odometer: 2903 Location: Somewhere
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Ricky Off-Road Guru
Joined: 21 May 2006 Odometer: 1032 Location: west midlands
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:04 pm Post subject:
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What exactly happens if you dont go via 3rd, is it just difficult to find?
my guess would be bias plate and or springs need replacing/resetting, easy diy job done from inside the Disco
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kevsj Just got MTs
Joined: 19 Oct 2009 Odometer: 275 Location: NORTH EAST SUNDERLAND
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:07 pm Post subject:
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yes its a 300tdi i think r380 if you go straight for 4 its like its not there going for 3rd then 4th seems to open the gate for 4th lol
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Hooli Mud Obsessed
Joined: 09 Jul 2004 Odometer: 2217 Location: Doncaster
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 10:04 am Post subject:
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Bias plate or springs makes sense to me as well.
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wrecker Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Sep 2011 Odometer: 60 Location: Offerton, Stockport
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:43 pm Post subject:
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kevsj wrote: | yes its a 300tdi i think r380 if you go straight for 4 its like its not there going for 3rd then 4th seems to open the gate for 4th lol |
I have the exact same problem in my 300 she has a 1" body lift which caused this problem i unscrewed the centre console and went up the road and the problem seemed top be resolved so will have look into modifying it this weekend.
Do you have a problem with reverse as well?
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kevsj Just got MTs
Joined: 19 Oct 2009 Odometer: 275 Location: NORTH EAST SUNDERLAND
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:42 pm Post subject:
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reverse not yet,, let me know how you get this weekend, i heard its sumthing to do with a lift but may be wrong
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crazymac Mud Obsessed
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Odometer: 2389 Location: Pembrokeshire, West Wales
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject:
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Why would it be down to the lift?? Doesn't make sense that.
For my money the bias plate sounds the more likely cause. Its £5 for the part and less than an hour of your time. And best of all you can take the console off to check before you buy the new plate and still be able to drive it around.
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Ian Ashcroft Gate Opener
Joined: 15 Jun 2010 Odometer: 49 Location: Mazarron Spain
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:33 pm Post subject:
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Hi if you can tell us the suffix of the box it would be easier to ident the syncro type, eg a J suffix is definately early and the prob is most likely the worn syncro /baulk ring slot, your method of nudgeing 3rd would support this theory. Another common prob on the Disco gear lever is, the centering springs wear a groove in the side of the boss on the gear lever and this causes incorrect positioning of the 3/4 position.
Regards Ian Ashcroft
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wrecker Winch Assistant
Joined: 10 Sep 2011 Odometer: 60 Location: Offerton, Stockport
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Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 10:03 pm Post subject:
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crazymac wrote: | Why would it be down to the lift?? Doesn't make sense that.
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the 1" body lift has (from what I can gather) caused the centre console also to be raised, so the block part way down gear lever is catching the console therefore not allowing it to come all the way back hence why on mine reverse doesnt always want to go in and once in stay in.
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crazymac Mud Obsessed
Joined: 22 Feb 2008 Odometer: 2389 Location: Pembrokeshire, West Wales
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:30 am Post subject:
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wrecker wrote: | crazymac wrote: | Why would it be down to the lift?? Doesn't make sense that.
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the 1" body lift has (from what I can gather) caused the centre console also to be raised, so the block part way down gear lever is catching the console therefore not allowing it to come all the way back hence why on mine reverse doesnt always want to go in and once in stay in. |
OK, that makes sense for a BODY lift, but the original post said "Lift" no mention of body, so my assumption (as its by far the most common) was a suspension lift so that would make no difference to the transmission.
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lugo35 Winch Assistant
Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Odometer: 62 Location: southwales
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:55 am Post subject:
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i had same thing with my disco its worn selector. had recon from ashcroft to sort mine out. common prob after big miles
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kevsj Just got MTs
Joined: 19 Oct 2009 Odometer: 275 Location: NORTH EAST SUNDERLAND
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 9:09 pm Post subject:
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oh big miles like 197,675 she's no spring chicken
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Poacher Winch Assistant
Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Odometer: 82 Location: Co.Kerry, Ireland
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:26 pm Post subject:
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Exactly the same problem with mine. Going 5th to 4th have to give it a nudge to 3rd and shes straight in otherwise it feels like there is nothing there. Reverse is fine though, jumps from 2nd every now and then. 3" suspension lift, no body lift.
Be nice to get it sorted on the cheap, so whats the bit you talk about? Any chance of a pic please?
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