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john413 Winch Assistant
Joined: 05 Jan 2010 Odometer: 70
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject: wiring issues
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hello
i have an anoying electrical problem
basically i stripped my jeep de rusted it and put it together
then i fitted an electric fuel pump then got it going so drove about like that for a while
but the wiring isent right
when i go to turn on the heater the light above my head turns on but the heater dosent work then when i switch off the heater the light goes off and the head light on the dash goes on
all this was working before i stripped the jeep
its an 88 sj413 jap
thanks in advance
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Lil Beastie Off-Road Guru
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Odometer: 1281 Location: Traveling between Reading and Slough
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john413 Winch Assistant
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:10 pm Post subject:
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well you see i cant see anything that could be wrong
everything seems right but isent
so really stuck on what to do
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Lil Beastie Off-Road Guru
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Odometer: 1281 Location: Traveling between Reading and Slough
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:12 pm Post subject:
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Have you tried discontecting the light (pull the bulb out), and seeing if the heater works then?
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john413 Winch Assistant
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:17 pm Post subject:
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yes and still dosent work
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Darrell Off-Road Guru
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Odometer: 1580 Location: South Oxfordshire. In the doghouse.
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:10 pm Post subject:
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Most strange problems are caused by a bad earth as I think yours is.
Been looking at the wiring diagram and see that the light and dash share the earth with the heater. So first job make sure the heater has a good earth (black wire)
Please excuse the very quick diagram
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john413 Winch Assistant
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:24 pm Post subject:
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thanks
do you know where this earth is at
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Darrell Off-Road Guru
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Odometer: 1580 Location: South Oxfordshire. In the doghouse.
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:44 pm Post subject:
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Nope
I do have an earth connection just below the dash on the far nearside but don't know if this is the correct one. You could just connect/try a wire from the black wire to earth just to see if this corrects things.
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john413 Winch Assistant
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:53 pm Post subject:
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yes i think that thats it so i cleaned the surface and still no change but i see that your diagram has a dash earth at that i just remembered that i dident connect an earth because i dident know where it went to it had 2 round connections and was near the windscreen but its not the window earth you dont know where i should put the other end to. one is on the body
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Lil Beastie Off-Road Guru
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:00 pm Post subject:
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put it on the same as the other if it reaches, dont think it would make a difference sharing a point.
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john413 Winch Assistant
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:59 pm Post subject:
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ok have to say thanks for all your replys
so went out to the jeep tonight and i realised that the handbreak cable wasent connected so when i connected that the light above my head turned on and the headlight on the dash went off and the fuel guage went on and all lights worked even the one on the heater switches
and as always theres a but when i turn the heater on to the last setting the horn fuse burns out and the heater dosent work atal
dont have a notion now
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Lil Beastie Off-Road Guru
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:23 pm Post subject:
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dont use the highest blowing then.
Mine doesnt work too well on full bast anyway. When its on the hot mode and on off it trickles through slowly but boiling hot unlike n full blast.
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john413 Winch Assistant
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Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:29 pm Post subject:
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na it dosent blow atal but will blow the horn fuse when put on full but dosent work
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mnl Articulating
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:40 am Post subject:
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john413 wrote: |
so went out to the jeep tonight and i realised that the handbreak cable wasent connected so when i connected that the light |
Sounds as though the handbrake cable is earthing the body to the chassis, or the other way round.
Make sure there is a good thick earth cable from battery to body, battery to chassis, and chassis to engine block.
If you lose the engine or chassis earth, when you operate the starter the handbrake cable sets on fire
Quite common on discoveries...
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john413 Winch Assistant
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:48 am Post subject:
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na i dident mean the handbreak cable it was the switch which tells you if the handbreak is on or not
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Lil Beastie Off-Road Guru
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:09 pm Post subject:
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my handbrake light doesnt even work (hasnt since owning and not sure why)
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john413 Winch Assistant
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 4:02 pm Post subject:
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aye well it was working before i started work on it
so just wondering wats wrong
now everything is working on the dash and still no heater
does anyone know what the dash light (p) (has a circle round the p) is. as this light stays on when engine is running
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john413 Winch Assistant
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:32 pm Post subject:
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ok was working all day today trying to get the heater going but failed
so just put all together again and called it a night
alls that i do know that it alot better than when i first started
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Darrell Off-Road Guru
Joined: 22 Aug 2007 Odometer: 1580 Location: South Oxfordshire. In the doghouse.
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:46 pm Post subject:
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Did you try a wire from the black wire to any earth point.
The (P) is just to show the handbrake is on.
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john413 Winch Assistant
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:52 pm Post subject:
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thats wat i was thinking the p was but it dosent go off atal
i couldent seem to find the earth
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Darrell Off-Road Guru
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:31 pm Post subject:
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Under the dash to the right of the heater there is a connecter with the four wires for it. Strip the end of some spare cable and push this up alongside the black wire at the connector and the other end to any exposed metalwork. Then try the heater, only a tempory job just to see if it works.
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john413 Winch Assistant
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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:24 am Post subject:
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thanks will try that later
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