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GVstu
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: Security Mods Reply with quote

Hi all,

with the news from the suzi section that SJP410's truck has been burned out for the sake of its wheels (arseholes etc.) it reminded me of something my old man used to do to our lightweight landy - he used to remove the rotator arm somethingorother so the thing wouldn't start up.

Gets me thinking about my own vehicle - the pajero has an immobiliser fitted which does seem to work (even though it locks the doors occasionally when it feels like it)

Is there anything like my fathers quick and dirty fix that I can do with my (any) truck to make it less nickable? I suppose you could wire in hidden switches etc but that seems easily bypassable, I like the idea of removing some easily accessable mechanical component that you could take away with you in a backpack or something if you had to leave your vehicle parked up somewhere.

Anyone else got any tips on securing your truck against being 'easily' nicked?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Petrol? Suppose you could quite easily pull the HT leads off and take them with you.

I do think a hidden switch would be a better solution though...

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Twiss
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think we really like posting up security mods... cos the crims can read it on here Wink

but... a hidden switch in the ignition coil +ve wire seems to work well.
A couple points though: make sure you put it somewhere where you won't hit it by accident (back of the glovebox is quite easy to switch accidentally) and make sure you tell the next owner where the switch is lol

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GVstu
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

See there I was thinking someone'd have turned a can of WD40 into some stealth anti theft devices...

Mine's got an excellent anti theft device atm, it's well broken! Laughing

I'm going to have a look at mine if and see what I can do about that side of things while she's sitting waiting to be mended.

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Twiss
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could put a switching valve in fuel fuel line between the pump and the carb?

Or if you leave it for a while, run a hose from the fuel pump to above the drivers seat... so when they start it they will get doused in petrol Twisted Evil

Might ruin your interior a bit though Wink

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4x4maddog
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if we post on here the buggers will see it just need to think outside the box make it as hard and time consuing as possible if they really want it thy will take it,

chain it to the floor!

sure i saw an article that had fitted a house intruder alarm in a sj near the drivers head just a cheap one on motion sensor but 130db in your ears is going to put you off hotwiring it maybe it was on here???

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive got a bear trap in the front footwells in my truck. Works well. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a bear!

but it ate all the sweets out of the glove box, so I got rid Wink




In line fuel lock with key is pretty good if it cannot be bi-passed easily.



Mr Bean took the steering wheel! Not a bad idea.

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4x4maddog
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do it south african style

step 1 after you get out slide seat all the way forward,

step 2 pull pin out of hand grenade

step 3 tactically wedge hand grenade under seat Very Happy

thief breaks in slides seat back and blows his man veg off, just make sure its insured for fire damage

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GVstu
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4x4maddog wrote:
do it south african style

step 1 after you get out slide seat all the way forward,

step 2 pull pin out of hand grenade

step 3 tactically wedge hand grenade under seat Very Happy

thief breaks in slides seat back and blows his man veg off, just make sure its insured for fire damage


Now that I like Very Happy

I will be using a combination of methods on mine! Thanks for the tips guys...

In-line fuel lock, I havn't heard of that before but I'm intrigued!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

teamidris wrote:
In line fuel lock with key is pretty good if it cannot be bi-passed easily.


I suppose the same could be done with the brakes, you could quite easily put a line lock under the seat and lock the rear brakes on.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two things that I've used on different vehicles are, on my old Lada Niva I made a thick steel bracket that I welded to the floor, under the trim, that then poked up through the plastic centre console thing around the gear levers, but very close to the HI-LO lever so I could lock it in neutral with a security type padlock with the straight pin. That was quite effective because the door locks were knackered and it wasn't stolen in the three years I owned it.

On a two door Range Rover I made a lever that was again welded to the floor or the seat support, I can't remember exactly now, but it was under the drivers seat, which allowed me to push the seat right forward with the backrest folded onto the steering wheel and lock it there with a padlock.
Again, that was another car with knackered door locks, and that didn't get stolen either. Laughing

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oshimon
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Half meter length of scaffold pole chained and padlocked to the rear axle. If they drive off then the noise and shower of sparks should alert someone/draw the attention of the feds.
A neighbour many years ago actually did this every night to his classic GMC pick up.

In-cab switch to the fuel cut off solenoid on the carb, or just disconnect the wire at the carb itself.
The great thing about SJ's is the wiring is usually a mess any roads, to the extent that us owners get the shivers if we even have to touch one so a would be thief would have no chance Very Happy

These work well as well -



Simon 'waking up the neighbours' Owen.

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Twiss
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my mates had his vitara nicked a while ago. He now has another one, and every time he leaves it he puts two steering wheel locks on in an X pattern, and a handbrake to gearstick lock.

No matter how quickly you can break a steering wheel lock off, having 3 different bright yellow locks is quite a visual deterrent Smile

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sjmxrus
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like the grenade idea, only trouble is i'd forget one day Rolling Eyes

any of the above really to make it difficult

i took the steerin wheel off a mk2 escort i had once cos it kept gettin knicked Laughing

what ever u do its got to be convenient cos otherwise u tend to get bored with settin it every time u leave it

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Twiss
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that I will apply some trickery for my security...

Get a standalone key switch... mount it in the dash, wire it up, and put a flashing red LED next to it
Maybe put an "ALARM" sticker next to it.

Then hide a switch somewhere else as well.

So by the time the would be thieves have pried the key switch out of the dash they still have to find another switch Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go for a combination of devices. Visual deterrents like big yellow locks and flashing alarm lights should help stop opportunists trying. Concealed switches which can easily be bypassed will stop them starting it in a hurry (thieves don't hang around in the act). Get creative with them, the best ones I know of even if a thief saw them, they wouldn't realise it was one and can be operated so subtlety that even an observant passenger would realise it was there (very useful for preventing pranks from 'friends').

That should be enough to stop them driving it away in a hurry, but not trailering. I've also seen a few light fingered types around (the sort that ask if you have any scrap) with high sided flat bed vans with hiab lifts capable of picking up a vehicle and hiding it in the back. Chaining stuff to the ground is about the only way of stopping them, but even that isn't always enough.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wouldn't stop it getting stolen but you could put a line lock on the brakes to lock them in an off position, a ratchet on the accelerator so it locked off on high power then a series of hypodermic sharps strategically attached to the dash

Alan 'I want my SJ back' Turner

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Twiss
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cynic-al, I like the sound of that plan! Twisted Evil

Did yours get nicked then? Sad

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, ages ago, they cut down a steel fence and used the ramps off my trailer to drive it over a small wall. But I don't like to go on about it, I'm not bitter at all! Razz
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Twiss
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's harsh! Using your own ramps to steal your car!!! Evil or Very Mad

I'm beginning to thing the grenade is actually the best method!!! Wink

C4 anyone?
I suppose it might be worth blowing your own 4x4 up in a huge fireball to get the guys that had stolen it. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not unlike the grenade idea, but something like this in a car should at least leave it usable afterwards.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4x4 magazine were advertising this it looks quite good and well priced
http://www.richbrook-styling.co.uk/dis-car-nect...ut-off-switch-/90

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I really don't want any thieves going in my car, I sometimes will even take the key out of the ignition. Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

terranosteve wrote:
4x4 magazine were advertising this it looks quite good and well priced
http://www.richbrook-styling.co.uk/dis-car-nect...ut-off-switch-/90


I used to have one of those about 20 years ago. Big padlock on the bonnet too.
got a bit tiresome with the spare on the bonnet but was quite good to have on a soft top Series II.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the 2WD low mod on the SJ is a good immobiliser. personally ive found 50kg of german shepherd in the back of the 4trak helps to keep people away Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem with big dogs as security in a Defender is,
that they just escape out the panel gaps.

If its a really big dog,
if it leans against a locked door they are liable to just burst open.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing

Nice work George Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex1990 wrote:
the 2WD low mod on the SJ is a good immobiliser.


Now theres an idea, leave your transfer box in neutral i think most wouldnt know what was going on.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you seen the 2wd low mod on suzuki club uk website?

http://www.suzukiclubuk.co.uk/2wdlowmodification.html

the last shift pattern is the one to put it in. even says its good for abit of extra secturity.
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