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excossack Mud Obsessed
Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Odometer: 2903 Location: Somewhere
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:28 pm Post subject: Td5 Defender 110 rear wheel bearing
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Ive got a llttle bit of play in my rear wheel bearing.
Are these adjustable?
The car is a 1999 model with no ABS or can someone point me to a part number?
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paul_c Off-Road Guru
Joined: 17 May 2009 Odometer: 1378
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject:
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Yeah they're adjustable but you'll need another lock washer (only pennies though) each time you adjust it. If its gotten to the point of being wobbly, might be worth removing the hub, cleaning thoroughly then repacking the bearing with new grease, to give a new lease of life. Its also a good opportunity to look for wear etc. Apart from the 52mm box spanner or socket, there's no special tools needed.
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Winnet Difflock Royalty
Joined: 03 Dec 2003 Odometer: 14725 Location: Aberdeen
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:40 pm Post subject:
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And get a proper box spanner and don't use a chisel to do the nut.
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excossack Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:02 pm Post subject:
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Ive got a 52mm box spanner
Is it a speacial grease i need and do I need a torque wrench?
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bertie_bas205 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Odometer: 4388 Location: ABERDEENSHIRE
1985 Land Rover 90nad
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:54 am Post subject:
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If you're going to the hassle of taking it off and re-greasing, just replace it.
The bearings are only £7-8 each, just get decent ones, timken or the likes...
Bertie.
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excossack Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:48 am Post subject:
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Thats very true Bertie. Do these bearing just pull off or do i need a special tool to remove the bearing?
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bertie_bas205 Mud Obsessed
Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Odometer: 4388 Location: ABERDEENSHIRE
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:04 am Post subject:
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I personally use a bearing drive tool but a decent parallel punch will do the same job...
The bearings just chap out, take a bit of care to make sure the new shell of the bearing goes in straight....
Its worth looking at the stub where the seal sits, this can get grooved and kill a new seal, letting water in or grease out resulting in another knackered wheel bearing....
Bertie.
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nutterbloke Winch Assistant
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Odometer: 95 Location: Wallasey Merseyside UK
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:10 am Post subject:
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No Special Tools are required to remove the bearing, a punch and hammer will be sufficient to remove the old one from the hub.
A Race and Seal driver kit is invaluable if you own a land rover (even more so if you off road) and can be picked up from about £25. These make refitting easier and reduce the risk of damage to the new seal, however it can be done without, by taking care to keep everything straight and not to nick the seal. If doing without keep the old outer race to drive the new one home so you don't damage the new race, it also gives you something the same size as the seal to avoid damage to the seal.
Be careful not to over tighten the bearing on refit and as Bertie says a good make of bearing such as Timken will prevent you from having to re-do the job in a couple of months.
Also take note of the fitment of the current seal as it does matter which side faces out on refitting.
Take your time and make sure its right. Its a simple job but it does make the difference between driving on 4 or 3 wheels
And Just a note, These bearings are replaced as an inner and outer pair, if I recall correctly the nut on TD5 bearings must be replaced as there is no lock washer it is a locking nut.
Hope this is helpful,
Col
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excossack Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:13 am Post subject:
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Nutter bloke in Wallasey? Just down the road from me
I thought I spotted a bit of water last night, so will double check at the weekend. I like the idea of the correct tool for the job, I shall have a look for race and bearing driver.
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nutterbloke Winch Assistant
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Odometer: 95 Location: Wallasey Merseyside UK
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:36 am Post subject:
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excossack wrote: | Nutter bloke in Wallasey? Just down the road from me
I thought I spotted a bit of water last night, so will double check at the weekend. I like the idea of the correct tool for the job, I shall have a look for race and bearing driver. |
Yup Wallasey Wirral, "Waves" although I am currently sat in the office in Liverpool.
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excossack Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:47 pm Post subject:
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*wave* from office in Birkenhead.
I shall sit down and have a look at the weekend and see whats what. Car is booked in for Monday anyways. eeek!
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excossack Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject:
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Bearing all changed.
I changed the inner and outer bearing as it came in the kit along with a new spacer , rubber seal and gasket.
It took me a couple of hours, but got there in the end with some assistance from a mate who's mechanic.
The old bearing was a Timken and then new bearing is also a Timken
cheers chaps.
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jamie_grieve Articulating
Joined: 19 Aug 2009 Odometer: 876 Location: South Scotland
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:36 am Post subject:
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That's good. If you find the bearing becomes loose in the next week or so then this is normal. Take out the spacer, throw it away as far as you can and replace the new style lock nut (which only exists to destroy stubs) with the older style two nuts and tab washer. The spacer was only introduced for manufacturing purposes is my understanding. The lock nut can only be used once as has already been said.
This is how taper roller bearings were designed to be used in the first place. We had problems with these spacers in our fleet in Africa and got rid of them all because the hubs wobbling would push the brake pads out and give folks a fright sometimes.
To answer the post then on a 1999 Td5 no they are not adjustable (not including changing the spacer). They are adjustable when the above procedure is carried out.
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excossack Mud Obsessed
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:02 pm Post subject:
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Thanks, I will see how the bearing goes and check for play in the bearing next week.
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