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Rotordogg Just got MTs
Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Odometer: 180 Location: Palmy, New Zealand
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:05 am Post subject: Q's: standard height, welding panels and Torque settings?
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Quick couple of questions:
1) Does someone have a standard height niva they can measure the height from the centre of the front hub to the join line of the bonnet for me to compare to??
(I can't measure to wheel arch, they been trimmed.)
2) When welding panel steel, Your ment to weld a small patch (Inch?) at a time, how long do you need to leave it to cool down before welding the next inch? I'm wanting to tidy up some panels, but don't want to over heat them and warp them like my last attempt!
3) Also, What is the torque setting for the bolt's holding the steering box in place??
(One bolt's fallen out!! )
Thanks,
Phil.
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gadgetboy Off-Road Guru
Joined: 03 Sep 2005 Odometer: 1947 Location: Belfast, N. Ireland
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:05 am Post subject:
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33.3 - 41.2 Nm
The overall height of an un-modified Niva should be 1640mm.
Just cool the patch with a damp cloth.
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half1 Gate Opener
Joined: 02 Feb 2010 Odometer: 16 Location: palmy north new zealand
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Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:31 pm Post subject: tougue settings NM
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Hi mate these are taken from the russian site, in newton metres, They might help. You may have to work from bolt size, some of there translations are a bit odd
I have the full list for the truck if you want
Nut bolt attachment crankcase steering
М10x1,25 M10x1, 25
33,3-41,2 (3,4-4,2) 33,3-41,2 (3,4-4,2)
Гайка болта крепления кронштейна маятникового рычага Nut bolt attachment of the pendulum
М10x1,25 M10x1, 25
33,3-41,2 (3,4-4,2) 33,3-41,2 (3,4-4,2)
Гайка шарового пальца тяг рулевого привода* Nut ball finger thrust steering linkage *
М14x1,5 M14x1, 5
42,1-53 (4,3-5,4) 42,1-53 (4,3-5,4)
Гайка стяжного болта вилки карданного шарнира Nut banjo bolt cardan fork
М8 M8
22,5-27,4 (2,3-2, 22,5-27,4 (2,3-2,
Гайка крепления рулевого колеса Nut fixing steering wheel
М16x1,5 M16x1, 5
31,4-51 (3,2-5,2) 31,4-51 (3,2-5,2)
Гайка крепления кронштейна вала рулевого управления к кузову Nut attachment of the steering shaft to the body
М8 M8
15-18,6 (1,53-1,9) 15-18,6 (1,53-1,9)
Гайка крепления сошки Retaining nut fry
М20x1,5 M20x1, 5
199,9-247 (20,4-25,2) 199,9-247 (20,4-25,2)
Гайка оси маятникового рычага Nut axis Swingarm
М14x1,5 M14x1, 5
63,7-102,9 (6,5-10,5) 63,7-102,9 (6,5-10,5)
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Rotordogg Just got MTs
Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Odometer: 180 Location: Palmy, New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:36 am Post subject:
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Thanks for that guy's.
Wanting to work out where my front is compared to standard, can't use roof height, can anyone measure there standard lada??
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Giovanni Just got MTs
Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Odometer: 438 Location: Enderley,Hamilton,North Island,New Zealand,South Pacific.
1988 Lada Niva
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:42 am Post subject:
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I know this does not answer your queery exactly but:
On me white 1988 1.6 Niva with Dobie springs and 5cm packers on the rear and unknown ******* springs on the front I measure 60cm from the centre front wheel hub to the horizontal flat part of the guard edge just below the bonnet lid.
On me green donor 1988 1.6 Niva with standard suspension front and rear I measure 58 cm from the centre front wheel hub to the horizontal flat part of the guard edge just below the bonnet lid.But this is with the vehicle sitting on blocks on the right front and three wheels because as of this week I took my first part off it.The front hub on the white one,the bearing face was worn and flogged out
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Rotordogg Just got MTs
Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Odometer: 180 Location: Palmy, New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:22 am Post subject:
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Thanks Guy's.
That makes miniskip 2cm below standard at the front- even after putting in the wedge lift!!
I know the spring's are old and saggy, didn't think the diesel weighed THAT much though!!
With 30" tyre's on, the overall roof height is 1645mm high, only 5mm above standard, I'm confused??
...So must be time to lift it up more!
Where's my grinder
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nivapulledout Just got MTs
Joined: 30 Nov 2008 Odometer: 363 Location: high seas or New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:24 am Post subject:
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those toyota lumps are heavy though Phil
when I weld panel I dont do continuous welds. I will tack the whole piece on then do two or three spots in quick sucsession next to each other then move to the opposite side and do two or three there and just keep rotating untill all the gaps between the original spots are joined. Time consuming but never get much warpage. hope it helps.
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nivaman Articulating
Joined: 24 May 2006 Odometer: 929 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:44 am Post subject: Re: Q's: standard height, welding panels and Torque settings
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Rotordogg wrote: |
3) Also, What is the torque setting for the bolt's holding the steering box in place??
(One bolt's fallen out!! )
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Tight's tight any tighter is stripped
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baxter Articulating
Joined: 08 May 2006 Odometer: 647 Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
1990 Lada Niva
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:45 am Post subject:
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nivapulledout wrote: | when I weld panel I dont do continuous welds. I will tack the whole piece on then do two or three spots in quick sucsession next to each other then move to the opposite side and do two or three there and just keep rotating untill all the gaps between the original spots are joined. Time consuming but never get much warpage. hope it helps. |
I can't weld to save my life, but a buddy who's an excellent welder at avoiding warpage does pretty much that and yep it works a treat.
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Rotordogg Just got MTs
Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Odometer: 180 Location: Palmy, New Zealand
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:39 am Post subject:
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baxter wrote: | nivapulledout wrote: | when I weld panel I dont do continuous welds. I will tack the whole piece on then do two or three spots in quick sucsession next to each other then move to the opposite side and do two or three there and just keep rotating untill all the gaps between the original spots are joined. Time consuming but never get much warpage. hope it helps. |
I can't weld to save my life, but a buddy who's an excellent welder at avoiding warpage does pretty much that and yep it works a treat. |
Exelent, I'll try it next time.
Wasn't really happy with my last attempt.
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Giovanni Just got MTs
Joined: 01 Dec 2006 Odometer: 438 Location: Enderley,Hamilton,North Island,New Zealand,South Pacific.
1988 Lada Niva
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Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:31 am Post subject: Re: Q's: standard height, welding panels and Torque settings
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Tight's tight any tighter is stripped [/quote]
Tight's tight any tighter it is stripped,then back it off 1/4 turn
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